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[–] Norin@lemmy.world 145 points 5 months ago (7 children) It’s probably better to read the philosophers Uncle Ted was pulling from (and ultimately failed to understand). Ellul especially. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (1 child) Might be a matter of taste, but ISAIF is worth a read on the basis of its wild mix of sociological brilliance and unhingedness IMO. That’s not to say I endorse blowing people up in the slightest, but the work stands taller than the sum of its influences. E.g. I think he synthesized and added to quite a few different authors in presenting his concept of oversocialization. (Please do correct me if I’m off-base — I love philosophy but it’s not my main wheelhouse). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago (2 children) ISAIF? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (1 child) Industrialized Society and Its Future (name of the manifesto) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] three@lemmy.zip -40 points 5 months ago* (4 children) You enjoy doing extra work? Why not explain the gibberish acronym in the first comment? Oh! I'm soooo sorry! I thought everyone wrote their dissertation on Ted "My First Love" Kaczynski? Listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It’s just off-the-cuff writing without copyediting. Tad sloppy, but weird hate, homie. E: To squarely address my view of Teddy K, he’s in the same bucket as Karl Marx, Otto Von Bismarck, Rasputin, etc. Not someone whose core values I share, or think is a good person — but a historically interesting character who has cultural symbolic importance for the role they played in their respective time and place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago It was pretty clear from context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) As a person of average intelligence, I knew exactly what the acronym was. Not sure the issue here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago It's Slways Aunny in Filadelphia permalink fedilink source parent [–] Slovene85@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I follow the philosophy of Father Ted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago "I hear you're an anarcho-syndicalist now, Father Ted!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Which philosophers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Norin@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children) Ted misses a lot in Jacques Ellul’s The Technological Society, which is where I’d start off f your looking for philosophers critical of modern technology. If you’re curious on that particular subject, I’d also recommend Lewis Mumford’s Myth of the Machine or The City in History. Or, for something that’s less of a tome (both Ellul and Mumford can be overly wordy), Ivan Illich’s Tools for Conviviality is incredibly critical of the modern world, but also offers hope that isn’t based on mailing bombs to universities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago Huh. I picked that up from a used book stand on a whim just based on the tile and skimming it, like ten years ago. I should probably read it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Ellul is a wonderful author, very inspiring. As someone inspired both by Christianity and anarchism, he's one of the authors in my personal pantheon. Just don't read his texts about Israel. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (1 child) Might be a matter of taste, but ISAIF is worth a read on the basis of its wild mix of sociological brilliance and unhingedness IMO. That’s not to say I endorse blowing people up in the slightest, but the work stands taller than the sum of its influences. E.g. I think he synthesized and added to quite a few different authors in presenting his concept of oversocialization. (Please do correct me if I’m off-base — I love philosophy but it’s not my main wheelhouse). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago (2 children) ISAIF? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (1 child) Industrialized Society and Its Future (name of the manifesto) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] three@lemmy.zip -40 points 5 months ago* (4 children) You enjoy doing extra work? Why not explain the gibberish acronym in the first comment? Oh! I'm soooo sorry! I thought everyone wrote their dissertation on Ted "My First Love" Kaczynski? Listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It’s just off-the-cuff writing without copyediting. Tad sloppy, but weird hate, homie. E: To squarely address my view of Teddy K, he’s in the same bucket as Karl Marx, Otto Von Bismarck, Rasputin, etc. Not someone whose core values I share, or think is a good person — but a historically interesting character who has cultural symbolic importance for the role they played in their respective time and place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago It was pretty clear from context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) As a person of average intelligence, I knew exactly what the acronym was. Not sure the issue here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago It's Slways Aunny in Filadelphia permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago (2 children) ISAIF? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (1 child) Industrialized Society and Its Future (name of the manifesto) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] three@lemmy.zip -40 points 5 months ago* (4 children) You enjoy doing extra work? Why not explain the gibberish acronym in the first comment? Oh! I'm soooo sorry! I thought everyone wrote their dissertation on Ted "My First Love" Kaczynski? Listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It’s just off-the-cuff writing without copyediting. Tad sloppy, but weird hate, homie. E: To squarely address my view of Teddy K, he’s in the same bucket as Karl Marx, Otto Von Bismarck, Rasputin, etc. Not someone whose core values I share, or think is a good person — but a historically interesting character who has cultural symbolic importance for the role they played in their respective time and place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago It was pretty clear from context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) As a person of average intelligence, I knew exactly what the acronym was. Not sure the issue here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago It's Slways Aunny in Filadelphia permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (1 child) Industrialized Society and Its Future (name of the manifesto) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] three@lemmy.zip -40 points 5 months ago* (4 children) You enjoy doing extra work? Why not explain the gibberish acronym in the first comment? Oh! I'm soooo sorry! I thought everyone wrote their dissertation on Ted "My First Love" Kaczynski? Listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It’s just off-the-cuff writing without copyediting. Tad sloppy, but weird hate, homie. E: To squarely address my view of Teddy K, he’s in the same bucket as Karl Marx, Otto Von Bismarck, Rasputin, etc. Not someone whose core values I share, or think is a good person — but a historically interesting character who has cultural symbolic importance for the role they played in their respective time and place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago It was pretty clear from context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) As a person of average intelligence, I knew exactly what the acronym was. Not sure the issue here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] three@lemmy.zip -40 points 5 months ago* (4 children) You enjoy doing extra work? Why not explain the gibberish acronym in the first comment? Oh! I'm soooo sorry! I thought everyone wrote their dissertation on Ted "My First Love" Kaczynski? Listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dgdft@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It’s just off-the-cuff writing without copyediting. Tad sloppy, but weird hate, homie. E: To squarely address my view of Teddy K, he’s in the same bucket as Karl Marx, Otto Von Bismarck, Rasputin, etc. Not someone whose core values I share, or think is a good person — but a historically interesting character who has cultural symbolic importance for the role they played in their respective time and place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago It was pretty clear from context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) As a person of average intelligence, I knew exactly what the acronym was. Not sure the issue here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It’s just off-the-cuff writing without copyediting. Tad sloppy, but weird hate, homie. E: To squarely address my view of Teddy K, he’s in the same bucket as Karl Marx, Otto Von Bismarck, Rasputin, etc. Not someone whose core values I share, or think is a good person — but a historically interesting character who has cultural symbolic importance for the role they played in their respective time and place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago It was pretty clear from context. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) As a person of average intelligence, I knew exactly what the acronym was. Not sure the issue here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] three@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It takes 2 seconds to put ISAIF in your search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Christ go rub one out and touch some grass. I hope you feel better soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] three@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Is christ in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That was a swear, not a prayer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago It's Slways Aunny in Filadelphia permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Slovene85@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I follow the philosophy of Father Ted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago "I hear you're an anarcho-syndicalist now, Father Ted!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago "I hear you're an anarcho-syndicalist now, Father Ted!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Which philosophers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Norin@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children) Ted misses a lot in Jacques Ellul’s The Technological Society, which is where I’d start off f your looking for philosophers critical of modern technology. If you’re curious on that particular subject, I’d also recommend Lewis Mumford’s Myth of the Machine or The City in History. Or, for something that’s less of a tome (both Ellul and Mumford can be overly wordy), Ivan Illich’s Tools for Conviviality is incredibly critical of the modern world, but also offers hope that isn’t based on mailing bombs to universities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago Huh. I picked that up from a used book stand on a whim just based on the tile and skimming it, like ten years ago. I should probably read it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Ellul is a wonderful author, very inspiring. As someone inspired both by Christianity and anarchism, he's one of the authors in my personal pantheon. Just don't read his texts about Israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Norin@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children) Ted misses a lot in Jacques Ellul’s The Technological Society, which is where I’d start off f your looking for philosophers critical of modern technology. If you’re curious on that particular subject, I’d also recommend Lewis Mumford’s Myth of the Machine or The City in History. Or, for something that’s less of a tome (both Ellul and Mumford can be overly wordy), Ivan Illich’s Tools for Conviviality is incredibly critical of the modern world, but also offers hope that isn’t based on mailing bombs to universities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago Huh. I picked that up from a used book stand on a whim just based on the tile and skimming it, like ten years ago. I should probably read it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Ellul is a wonderful author, very inspiring. As someone inspired both by Christianity and anarchism, he's one of the authors in my personal pantheon. Just don't read his texts about Israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago Huh. I picked that up from a used book stand on a whim just based on the tile and skimming it, like ten years ago. I should probably read it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago Ellul is a wonderful author, very inspiring. As someone inspired both by Christianity and anarchism, he's one of the authors in my personal pantheon. Just don't read his texts about Israel. permalink fedilink source parent