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Optical illusion (thelemmy.club)
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[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

another way these facts get skewed: most gun deaths are suicides, not homicides

in the US, states with the strictest gun laws do also have the lowest suicide rates, maybe because when there isn't an easy way to quickly exit, fewer people do - and the same reasoning probably applies to homicides

either way, there are also accidental gun deaths (kids accidentally shooting themselves or others because they're playing with daddy's gun, etc.) - so gun policies absolutely do save or cost lives

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

maybe because when there isn’t an easy way to quickly exit

Intentional heroin overdose

[-] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Most suicides are spur of the moment things in execution. So the more steps it takes to complete suicide the more chances for reflection and regret and the less likely it gets carried out.

Compare the steps required from gun and overdose.

Gun: decide on firearm, retrieve from storage, load, shoot.

Drugs- decide on the drug of choice, find a source of the drug, purchase enough to complete suicide (tricky to judge with many drugs and expensive with things like heroin), often purchase alcohol as well, prepare drugs (if tablets pop them out of the packets or prepare the heroin), take drugs (if taking tablets probably going to be swallowing tablets for a good while).

In the UK we limit the amount of drugs you can buy at one time (like paracetamol, a common overdose choice) as the extra step of having to visit multiple shops or come back repeatedly reduces suicide rates.

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Particularly when a family member already owns a gun, or you personally already own a gun.

I had guns for personal safety reasons, so suicide was always a single step away for me. (Which was quite dangerous because I incidentally owned guns when I was very suicidal, lol.)

Also, for whatever reason, men have a much higher suicide rate and are much more likely to use a gun - they care a lot less about the mess they leave behind. Women on the other hand are much more likely to not end up killing themselves, and much more likely to use a method with less trauma and cleanup, like poisoning themselves.

These might also be contributing factors for why the stats show far more people kill themselves with guns than by poisoning.

Also, poisoning is a very risky form of suicide, high chance it will fail - you either don't take enough and then survive the poisoning (maybe you vomit up the drugs while you're unconscious, maybe a family member finds you and rushes you to the ER where they pump your stomach, etc.) - and often surviving a poisoning can leave you disabled, etc. You can survive a suicide attempt with a gun, I just think it's less common if executed correctly.

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