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[–] 26 points 6 months ago (32 children)

"Literal torture and abuse" by "radical pacifist type liberals" huh?

What in the psyop are you trying to pull there, Jerry?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    There was a whole dialogue about "is it OK to punch nazis" in like 2016. Most libs in my life, including a college professor were very against punching nazis. I'm certain any comment section outside of Lemmy is full of libs going "You can't just assault people because of their opinions, that makes you just as bad as nazis".

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago*

    20 years ago I might have said you shouldn't punch a kid for saying Nazi shit, because he doesn't understand what he is saying and is probably just being edgy. By 2016 I was pretty on board with punching Nazis. In 2026, while I still would not punch a child because I am an adult, that's about as far as I will go with that statement. Kid did good.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, I've been writing about this idiocy since almost thirty years. Fighting evil doesn't make you just as bad as evil. Using that "logic", we were wrong to bomb the hell out of the Nazis and shoot them in Europe. We were "bad" to do so? I don't think so. It's idiotic to think that. In fact, it's an utter betrayal of the enlightenment values amongst which we gained the idea of nuance under the law. It portrays a philosophy devoid of any actual thought, relying simply on mindless knee-jerk reactions.

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago* (25 children)
  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    It's stuff you made up in your head to push your position/narritive.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (23 children)
  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (22 children)

    Calling you out for posting made up nonsense broadly attacking a group you frequently disparage is not vagueposting, that's very direct. Even if you believe your prejudices truly are representative enough of the whole to warrant being shared, which no, don't try and dismiss their criticism by reframing what they've said as something you can object to. That's not what they were doing, and what you're doing is transparent.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    there is a very harmful liberal pacifist tendency in a significant part of the population which leads to people being punished for fighting back against injustice?

    You think a significant part of the population would torture their child over this?

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  • [+] -11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, definitely. Plenty of parents would just see "my son punched someone at school and got suspended for 2 days" and they would do everything in their power to make those 2 days hell as punishment. I'm honestly amazed some of y'all seem not to be familiar with these types of parents.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (16 children)

    Yeah you know what, I do in fact think that you've made up the idea that liberals are prone to torturing their children. Gonna stick with that. No idea what any of the rest of that has to do with torturing their children, and most of it is highly conservative behavior, so. Just gonna ignore it.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    The (again made up) assumption that I've lived a sheltered life is another attempt to dismiss the argument as baseless instead of addressing it. You have no evidence for these claims, you've just got your prejudice.

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    You've definitely lived a sheltered life if you don't believe in shitty parents, idk what to tell you.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (12 children)

    My argument has never been that shitty parents don't exist, don't try to present like I have ever claimed that. Everything here is pointing out that your fantasy - that a significant proportion of parents fall into the category of "pacifist liberals who torture their kids" - is something you just plain made up.

    Edit: Oh. Well thank you, mods!

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    I didn't "make up" anything, I commented about an experience I have witnessed among many, many of my peers. Shitty parents who fetishize rules and uphold them over what is right are very common in my personal, lived experience. I am happy for you that you find this so unbelievable, because it means your life has been much better than mine.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Man. You're really committed to this.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I just made an offhand comment saying I hope his parents are supportive despite the fact that many aren't. Then a dozen people dog piled me with "actually there's no such thing as an unsupportive parent you're making that up this is a psyop!!!!"

    From my perspective, you're the one strangely committed to denying that there has ever been a shitty parent anywhere on Earth.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Yeahhhh, buddy no. That's not what happened. Nobody has ever claimed there weren't unsupportive parents, you made up that a significant proportion of parents (conveniently members of a group you dont like) were prone to torturing their children.

    And then after a ban, you're back to try and make up the narrative yet again. Bold strat there.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    you made up that a significant proportion of parents (conveniently members of a group you dont like) were prone to torturing their children.

    I've seen it plenty of times. Solitary confinement is torture, punitive beatings are torture. Where I'm from, it's very common for parents to inflict these forms of torture on their children.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    there is a very harmful liberal pacifist tendency in a significant part of the population which leads to people being punished for fighting back against injustice?

    That was the made up claim you were rightfully called out over - once again, I'm not here to argue that shitty parents don't exist, and I have never claimed that they don't. I'm not about to argue about it, either, since that's not the claim you've been criticized for making up.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I didn't make anything up. That is an observation of the world around me and I stand by it.

    Leave me alone, you clearly have no interest in having a reasonable conversation.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    You got banned and came back 24 hours later to start this fight again - you are 100% within your rights to leave and I will absolutely respect that, but I'm not about to let you pretend you didn't absolutely start this back up after an extremely clear indication that you should drop this. If you want to stop talking about it, feel free to stop.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm just replying to what's in my inbox.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Ban notifications also get sent to your inbox.

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