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Coherent ideology
(thelemmy.club)
[a green flag with a leaf stands above an utopian green city with vegetation and clean energy]
Greenists believe that the world should be a better place for green people, and everyone else too
[an orange fascist-looking star in a gear logo stands above a bleak concrete city]
Orangites believe that the world should only have orange people, and that all greens should be hung
[an orange character speaks smugly, in a bedroom that contains an orangite logo and a greenist/orangite flag]
Me?
I'm a greenist-orangite,
why do you ask?
Casualty figures again. Those include wounded.
Military deaths included.
Note that the Project for Defense Alternatives report (cited on Wikipedia) claims 20-26k military deaths and 3,664 civilian. It cites these previous estimates and gives a detailed breakdown of where they may have been in error. I'm no expert, so frankly I don't know which numbers are more accurate, and I don't particularly feel like digging through the report to defend an off-hand comment that has already gone on long enough.
I will concede that by some estimates, of some metrics, Obama may have killed fewer people than Bush Sr. The claim of "fewer people than any president in the previous 50 years" is still patently absurd though, as he still killed more than Clinton. And it's still a hell of a long way from "100 to 1."
He's still a war criminal either way.