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Most CHUDs didn't go to underfunded intercity schools with moldy textbooks. They went to well funded suburban middle class schools which, yeah are still US public schools, but still provide better educational opportunities than what most people in the world have.

CHUD aren't fascists because their social studies teacher was underpaid, they're fascists because fascism speaks to them and their values. They are fascists at the end of the day because they like being fascists.

And further more, unless you embrace full hard determinism, you have to view these people as culpable to some extend for the awful politics they support. Yeah, none are immune to propaganda, we are shaped by are culture yadda yadda. But I have to think humans have some capacity of will to rise above their social conditioning, if they're willing didn't society would never evolve or change for the better.

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[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 16 hours ago

The infamous unconditional election doctrine of Calvinism is that it doesn't actually matter if you're good or bad, God just chooses to save people independent of any sort of human merit because no human action can one-sidedly change what the Sovereign chooses, and none of us are "worthy" anyway. We're all "totally depraved" sinners and the ones who escape perdition escape it due to divine mercy, not because we deserve to, or so Calvin said.

Basically, Calvinism is even more misanthropic than people give it credit for.

I agree that his point is anti-Marxist though, because we plainly do have conscious control. People argue about free will in such silly ways. To me it's the second least-serious of the traditional big arguments in philosophy after moral realism.

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago

I appreciate the refresher on Calvinism. I haven’t really thought seriously about it in well over a decade, as I’ve cut out all the conservative Christians in my life

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