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Most CHUDs didn't go to underfunded intercity schools with moldy textbooks. They went to well funded suburban middle class schools which, yeah are still US public schools, but still provide better educational opportunities than what most people in the world have.

CHUD aren't fascists because their social studies teacher was underpaid, they're fascists because fascism speaks to them and their values. They are fascists at the end of the day because they like being fascists.

And further more, unless you embrace full hard determinism, you have to view these people as culpable to some extend for the awful politics they support. Yeah, none are immune to propaganda, we are shaped by are culture yadda yadda. But I have to think humans have some capacity of will to rise above their social conditioning, if they're willing didn't society would never evolve or change for the better.

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[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Education and intelligence isn't a straight line. Just because a CHUD is well educated on statistics doesn't mean they're going to be well versed on history for example.

I liken it to athletics. Someone trained in tennis might not be great at hurdles just because they're 'sporty' just as a person might not have a well rounded understanding of reality just because they went to an expensive school.

We are heavily influenced by our environment and live in a culture where certain things are either not taught, are taught wrong, or are suppressed in order to function in a social system that will render you homeless for not being a certain way. This has to be the case for anyone to believe in fascism because it is a self destructive ideology for any social species to follow for a long period of time. If some mathematical genius is making a killing off of fossil fuels while global warming melts his face off, he is still uneducated, despite being educated.

Anyone doing a coherent materialist observation of reality would quickly abandon fascism as a dead end for humanity. They only reason they would do otherwise would be out of delusion, in which case they are no longer acting within reality anyway.

The education systems of capitalist countries don't exist to teach you how to live in reality, they teach you how to do your role under capitalism. So when leftists say 'poorly educated', they don't mean 'were poor and didn't have access to an expensive school' they mean 'Were raised in an environment where they were given faulty tools of material observation'. It's not elitism against the financial status of the uneducated anymore than wanting decent well rounded healthcare is elitism against the financial status of sick Americans.

Or something like that. I'm tired so this might be just an incoherent ramble.

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