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[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

deeply meaningless rant:

why do we need two words for placebo effect when it's just positive placebo and negative placebo, i know i know, the word placebo has an ingrained positive aspect in its root... but it's not like the english language ever gives a fuck about the roots of a word, it bastardises all words equally! why make an exception now?? why not just call it negative placebo!

[-] woofenator@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

It's because Placebo and Nocebo are not meant for english, but for clear medical communication, same reason Latin is used in the medical field, instead of plain English/Spanish/Canadian/etc. Both words are Latin, Placebo is I shall please and Nocebo is I will harm, and a doctor looking at those two words will, without a shadow of a doubt, know what has occured, if anything, to a patient

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

the whole point is nothing has occured though, or rather nothing medically solvable

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

No, the whole point is things occurred, but were not caused by a drug, but by the brain. It's still equally as valid.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

Medical is mostly greek not latin.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

It's not about positive/negative. Those have specific meanings in research, and it's not "good vs. bad" like in colloquial speech.

Placebo/nocebo are both positives, but the difference is about whether the imagined effect is beneficial or adverse. Imagining a beneficial effect is a positive, and imagining an adverse effect is also a positive.

"Negative" would imply they're imagining that something isn't there. For instance, if clinicians could verify that a physiological change took place, but due to the subject's expectations they don't notice any change in symptoms. Like, "I thought it was a placebo so I don't feel any better." I don't think there's a word for that because it's not typically how trials are designed.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Double plus good idea.

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