He somehow seems to think, still, that he can shape the Democrats. "If I thought there was a viable 3rd party do you think I would be voting for them? Fuck no" he says, after scolding someone in his chat, calling them an ultra, for calling him out for his continued connection to the democrats.
But lets think about this for a second...
how the fuck
do you build
a fucking party
do you do it by voting for, another party
do you do it by telling people to vote for another party
or do you do it by building A FUCKING WORKING CLASS PARTY
LIKE FUCKING LENIN SAID
I don't really understand what Hasan thinks these Democrats are supposed to "DO" in this situation. "They're not DOING it!" he yells. What is "IT"? Go against their class interests, defy the fundamental laws of capital and somehow break free of their social relations through pure force of will? His proximity to the Democratic Party is what breeds this weird fucking obsession he has.
"These guys are mad because they talk to ME and not their Pedo sex cult leader, that's why they're mad". What if they didn't talk to you, though? What if tomorrow they just stopped talking to you at all? What if the only reason they talk to you AT ALL is that they know that you have a huge fucking audience, and you are actually effective at moving people to the left? So instead, they give you cookies and treats, they give you access and interviews, they let you into the DNC, they give you access to candidates, like Zoran.
I really do think at this point, that he is being catfished by the Democratic Party. That they understand that he is an effective communicator, and they have somehow convinced him that if he just keeps at it, he can one day kick that football for real.
Good, that's what we want, third parties only become viable when the dem elites dispense with the kayfabe and shut progressives and future leftists out of the current poltical process
But unfortunately that means we have to keep pushing a kayfabe of our known, which is entryism into the Democratic Party, so that rupture can be triggered in the first place
And the fact figures like Zohran and even those dipshits AOC and Bernie maintain high popularity while simultaneously the Democratic Party in general is at historic lows, tells us the groundwork for an internal split is already in place
I doubt that's what most members of the DSA want, even its more radical membership. Their goal is to win elections, not get barred from them.
Asking the DSA members I know personally, a dramatic break of some sort is definitely what they want. I don't know how representative that is.
I think a break is the consensus opinion but there is a lot of wiggle room in how exactly DSA is supposed to break from the Democratic Party line.
Doesn't matter, if they win enough elections under the dem banner, the DNC will make the choice for them
I think it does matter that most people joining the DSA are completely unprepared for this eventuality.
They'll learn, but it's going to be rough.
Actually the harder the rupture hits them, the better it is for our purposes, look how the failure of Bernie 2020 radicalized so many here, now scale that up on a national level
In the meantime if they use the dems to build up a national organizing infrastructure then all the better, they'll have something to fall back on when the DNC slams the door in their faces, unlike the personality driven "organizing" that vanished the minute Sanders bent the knee to Biden
My worry does actually go back to Bernie 2020 - it radicalized a lot of people, but because they were unprepared for the moment when the door slammed they were unable to continue their organizing beyond it. They just became jaded posters and podcasters.
Unless the DSA is actively preparing for the innevitable betrayal the exact same thing could happen again. Sure, it'll create more radicals, but there won't be an actual organizing infrastructure left for them to pour their radical energy into. We'll have to start over.
Though we'll be starting from a better position, simply because it raised the consciousness of former DSA members.
I think that’s only really true for people that were the most visible supporters of Bernie. Plenty of people who had door knocked or phone banked for Bernie turned towards more real world organizing.
It’s not consensus within DSA but I believe a significant enough portion of the org wants DSA into a party that just runs on the Democratic ballot line until they’re forced out. The problem is DSA is so ideologically incoherent that different factions resist the kind of centralization necessary to make that happen.