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The Holodomor literally is Nazi propaganda though? It was started by Nazi Germany and then later perpetuated by Ukrainian Neo-Nazis
Like, this isn’t a niche claim, this is a documented fact. ~~You can just look it up.~~ You used to be able to just look it up. Now search engines don’t work.
I tried looking it up
It's just talking points to counter this claim.
I think "just looking it up" in this era of deliberate miseducation is easier said than done
Fuck, okay a couple years ago it was easy to look up, but search engines don’t work anymore
It's crazy how accessible information once was. I could find years old comments Iade on forums wby typing out a portion of what I wrote and the website name. Obscure videos with 12 views would come up if properly named. Souch of the internet is lost behind shitty indexing and I don't believe for a second that SEO and AI alone are responsible for it
It sucks so bad. I wasn’t trying to a dick like “Oh just look it up,” back when I looked into it it was very easy to find that information
We so quickly went from a world where so much information was easily available to one where it takes special skills and a lot of work to be able to sift through and actually find what you’re looking for.
Agree. It's very hard to find evidence online, and when you do you just know that it isn't going to hold water with liberals who will discount any source that isn't Wikipedia.
https://hexbear.net/post/342686
The "Holodomor" is a name used to refer to the '32-'33 famine that was coined as part of a revived campaign to paint it as a genocide, but I've definitely also seen some people use it as a way of just referring to the famine with fewer syllables, but the way that they are talking about it doesn't make any sense either in terms of how collectivization relates to the famine or what a kulak is (the description they give is of a poorer strata of peasants, kulaks had enough land to have other people work it).
Incidentally, the kulaks were overwhelmingly not the people who died during the famine (let alone from the famine), it was peasants with no or very little land who were dying, because the reason for the urgency of the collectivization wasn't that kulaks simply owned the land (which was still seen as a problem) but the fact that they were hoarding grain to profit from the famine, hence collectivizing their property to distribute resources to the people who were starving.
Lastly regarding the history, I'm pretty sure part of the reason Goebbels did this genocide lie to start with is because it was rhetorically useful for Ukrainian fascists of the time like the OUN-B, so it's not just Neo-Nazis.
Also, "socialism is individual workers owning the means of production that they personally use" is the most pathetic distortion of Marxism. What you're describing is fucking yeomanism! You know, like the ideology of Thomas Jefferson (not that he would ever condescend to being a yeoman himself). Even the usual bastardization of the meaning is at least talking about cooperatives, but anyone who bothers to actually read Marx understands that it's not cooperatives but the proletariat as a class having control of the entire means of production, because a central part of the point is to eliminate the "anarchy of production" by coordinating the labor and use of resources across society.
Never mind the distorted view of history, I hate these fuckers for being such ridiculous snobs about "refuting" Marxists when they don't have enough correct knowledge of Marxist theory to fill a single page, double-spaced. It's the epitome of how liberals like to perform shower arguments to each other instead of actually present their arguments to someone with any interest in saying something other than "so true, bestie."
https://hexbear.net/post/342686