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[-] udon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

You have never been to Japan, have you? If any country in the world has excellent public bathroom infrastructure, it's Japan. Always clean, generally free, and within 1-2 minutes walking range.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The already existing infrastructure may be of good quality but it doesn't really matter if the capacity isn't there to meet the volume of people.

In fact, let's agree that your point is true. Wouldn't people want to use those immaculately maintained facilities and, if they aren't, could it be because the wait is too long?

I have trouble buying a narrative that any person chose to skip over a widely available well maintained public toilet to break into a person's home and use their bathroom. You should too.

[-] udon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I agree that most people wouldn't opt for that, but most tourists also don't behave like that. The vast majority behaves very well, they are somewhat aware of Japanese manners and try to adapt (sometimes in sweet, dorky ways, but who am I to judge, I probably look the same).

There are a few people who do this and they ruin the image for everyone.

The issue is not the infrastructure, really. It is excellent and in excellent condition, across the country.

Imagine you have perfect toilets, some even designed by star architects, free to use for everyone and clean. And some fucker just decides to take a dump in someone's garden, for whatever reason. Is that the problem of the infrastructure?

[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Doesn't matter how famous the architect who made the toilet was if there's only one of them per 100 people at a tourist event compared to the one per 10 any other time of the year. I've seen lots of fancy toilets but none of them have been able to hold 10 butts at once.

[-] udon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Seriously though, Japan has the best toilet infrastructure in the world as far as I can tell, in terms of maintenance and quantity. Tourists don't shit in people's gardens in other countries as much, or at least it doesn't get scandalized. I assume it doesn't happen all that often here either, probably those were 1-2 cases that get hyped up. But toilet infrastructure is really the last thing you have to worry about.

Also, it's not like all of a sudden 1000 people spawn in the same spot and all have to take a shit within the next 2 minutes. I expect tourists, especially adults, to be able to plan their dumping schedule at least 10 minutes ahead in regular times. If there are a few emergencies, the Japanese toilet infrastructure can accomodate for them. There are not 1000 emergencies at the same time. Just walk for 2 minutes or across the street to the next convenience store and take a shit there.

Other than that, the star architect toilet tour through tokyo is one of my recommendations for friends coming to visit. It's really an experience!

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago

For whatever reason? What could possibly be the reason? If the toilets are as remarkable and pristine as youve shared, it's hard to imagine any reason someone would choose to do that. Unless you're saying the tourist is doing it out of spite which still leaves us with the question of why.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

I imagine China doesn't have the infrastructure Japan has and they're simply doing what they're accustomed to doing when travelling their own country.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

You genuinely think a person would forgo a functional (let's take udon's word for it - world class) toilet to break into someone's house in a foreign country just to use their bathroom? That doesn't seem like a stretch to you?

[-] xep@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yards very often don't have to be broken into. You can access the yard by walking into it from the street.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The article makes the claim that homes have been broken into.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Like I said, if they're accustomed to bad infrastructure, why would they expect it elsewhere?

Besides that, tourists often travel in group. Even the best infrastructure can't accommodate a large bus of tourists are once. I've been to Japan, the more touristy places actually have signs specifically addressing the Chinese on what not to do, so it does point at it being a larger problem there.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Being accustomed to bad infrastructure means they instinctually wouldn't use good infrastructure if it's right in front of them? That's an interesting assumption to make of people who come from lesser means.

Yes, I can see that being a problem. But it comes back to Japanese infrastructure not having adequate capacity so I'm glad they're doing the responsible thing by shutting it down. Hopefully they can come up with a solution so that Japanese businesses that rely on a spike in volume during this festival don't get hit too hard.

[-] udon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Bro has never been here and thinks he can make a reasonable argument

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Feel free to make a counter argument based on your personal experience, if you actually have one. What would be the reason?

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