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[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 116 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah about that.

Those are termosolar powerplant, they use the sun to boil water and spin a turbine.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Why do I have an overwhelming urge to climb that

[-] Hedup@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

You know if you're a moth, you can just fly up there.

[-] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago
[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago

BRotHeR i cRaVe foR tHe ForBiDDen liGhT

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

You played too many Ubisoft games.

[-] fascicle@leminal.space 6 points 1 week ago

Are you perhaps living in a place where it snows or something

[-] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Sam McGee just wants to do free climbing

[-] PointyFluff@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Um...no.

Sam McGee just wants to be warm

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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Better solar power extractor.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago

If you think about it coal fired power plants are also solar powered 🤔

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

True, just that an intermediate step(of many steps) is to continually destroy the atmosphere.

[-] Aneb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It's not like we need it to breath anyways. We'll just pay corporations for oxygen masks and "Atmo-tanks" to breath. We have commodify everything because Capitalism requires it.

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

C'mon Cohegan, give dees peepul aihhhhhh

[-] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Only that sun fell on plants millions of years ago. We really don't want that million year old carbon dioxide in the atmosphere alongside the recent stuff

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Very true, the conclusion I'm drawing is that solar power is actively harming the environment and causing climate change. No new solar!

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[-] RavingGrob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago
[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

do you not know how those work?

the sun shines on the side angled upwards and heats it up. everybody knows hot air rises, so this raises the blade, creating the spinning motion.

it's basic, really. third grade stuff.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I really love how it's almost that simple.

the sun shines on the ~~side angled upwards~~ planet and heats it up. everybody knows hot air rises, ~~so this raises~~ creating winds that drive the blade, creating the spinning motion.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Omg every body knows wind is created when god sighs at the collective sin of the world.

Some people so dumb.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

the great orc father mungnog's farts propel the wind, all know this.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago
[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I declare bankruptcy!

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

The sun heats the planet unevenly, this causes wind. Wind is solar

[-] agentTeiko@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago

Its even more metal they heat salt that heats water to spin the turbine. This keeps the power generation well after sun down.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Although they're falling out of use these days, both because they're not very environmentally friendly on account of being instant bird death-rays, and also because regular solar panels are cheap enough that it's not worth it to make a big thermosolar plant.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Habitat destruction, air pollution, and pesticides are unfathomably worse for birds.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 points 1 week ago

And I'm not sure how much alive things are in the Atacama (except when there is a blooming desert fenomenon.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 5 points 1 week ago

Idk, my country just inaugurated a gigantic one of these.

Also, fotovoltaic pannels decay with time and have to be replaced, 15 years I think? Their manufacturing isn't also the greenest thing on earth.

You build one of these, and you can run it for a long long time.

[-] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago

15 years I think

This number gets lower every time I see it.

First, manufacturers typically guarantee their panels for 25 to 30 years.

Second, while we can extrapolate from existing data and perform accelerated aging tests, we're actually not completely sure how long PV panels last in the real world because the oldest ones from 1987 are still going.

[-] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

fotovoltaic pannels decay with time and have to be replaced, 15 years I think?

much longer: https://www.slashgear.com/1989112/solar-panel-lifespan-longer-new-study/

[-] psud@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The usual warranty period is 20 years generating 80% of the nameplate generating Watts

They keep generating reasonable amounts of power 50 or 100 years later, though they tend to get overtaken by new technology in 10 to 20 years, and since they pay for themselves in about 4 years in my area they get replaced while still working well

I think we export our obsolete panels to developing nations

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Lies! Well the thermal plant is also fine but photovoltaics are really, really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM

I wonder if it could be worth it to make one of those on other planets/the Moon one day. No birds to worry about there.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Solar panels are still cheaper and easier. Most spaceships and probes rely on them.

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[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

Not a lot of atmosphere on the moon.

Transmitting heat across distances in effectively a vacuum doesn't work too well.

Just look a the size of the radiators the ISS has to have, and they're not even sending heat anywhere in particular, that's just getting it off station

[-] Doxin@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago

You're getting thermal radiation and convection confused. The ISS has giant radiators because it's a right pain in the ass to turn heat into thermal radiation, and it cannot rely on convection to cool things like you can here on earth. Turning thermal radiation into heat on the other hand is pretty trivial. Just don't reflect it and it'll turn into heat. These things aren't transporting heat across distances. They are transporting thermal radiation across distances. That works as well in a vacuum -- if not better -- as it does on earth.

If thermal radiation doesn't work in a vacuum, how is the sun heating anything up?

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

I stand corrected

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

The mirrors on Earth don't transfer the energy using the air between the mirror and the collector, they just bounce the spicy photons which can travel even better in a vacuum.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 points 1 week ago

Or in the Atacama, the Desertiest desert on earth!

Where the gigantic Cerro Dominador Termosolar Power Plant opened a couple years ago.

[-] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ahkshually, those tend to boil salt...which is later used to boil water.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

That technology is a relic of the past. Solar panels are cheap and efficient now. Just use solar panels.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

And much easier to operate and troubleshoot.

[-] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 4 points 1 week ago

That's what they want you to think. I bet it also powers a secret orbital space laser. I should know, a man with a theoretical degree in physics told me.

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