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Or maybe Tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMKyocHwUJI&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20260202-musk-wants-to-merge-spacex-with-xai-then-go-public - podcast

time: 5 min 18 sec

UPDATE: the merge has gone through, apparently for "$250 billion" of imaginary value of private company equity

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[-] self@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago

Kessler syndrome, and historically starlink’s satellites don’t always burn up in the atmosphere as they should

[-] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 2 days ago

For the millionth time, if every satellite in the starlink constellation were to fail today, they would be gone in about five years at the high end. They are low enough in the atmosphere that they have to fire station-keeping rockets to maintain orbit. If they collide, the small pieces deorbit even faster due to drag.

From this article:

At around 400 kilometers and into the 500-km realm — home to ISS and the SpaceX Starlink satellites among others — atmospheric drag plays a major role. Dead satellites and debris usually slow and burn up in the atmosphere in just a few years. This natural cleansing process accelerates when the sun becomes more active and solar coronal mass ejections strike Earth and cause the atmosphere to swell.

“In those altitudes, we can probably do a lot and we will be forgiven,” Linares says.

[-] self@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago
[-] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago

anyone else who wants to tell me “for the millionth time” about how it’s super safe to fill low-earth orbit with unprecedented amounts of literal garbage in pursuit of creating a shit-tier ISP that’s sucked hard every time I’ve used it is welcome to take it up with the professor of astronomy that wrote that last article

“it’s not Kessler syndrome unless it’s from the Kessler region of space, otherwise it’s just sparkling Rods from God” fuck you

[-] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago

Wait, does the Starlink internet suck as well? I mean, it has to have high latency, that much I've assumed, but other than that?

[-] self@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

every time I've used it, it had massive issues with the connection hitching and with delivering anywhere near the promised amount of bandwidth

my experience is my own, etc etc, but it reminded me a lot of how every time I've been in a self-driving tesla the only person impressed (and not terrified) of the thing was the owner

[-] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

If I understand correctly, the only reason they're in such low orbit, and thus why there needs to be so fucking many of them, is to have much lower latency compared to geostationary satellites. You know, in case you need to play Quake on your satellite connection.

[-] cstross@wandering.shop 9 points 2 days ago

@V0ldek @techtakes If you want high latency, nothing beats telnet from the UK to a server in California via a comsat in GEO back in the early 90s when the trans-Atlantic cable circuit was down. A three-phase TCP exchange has to crawl up to GEO, 35,000km above the equator, and back down *three times*, never mind the surface level routing.

Gave me a strong appreciation for Berkeley vi's designed-in ability to cope with slow modems.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

I'm told it's good for satellite internet, if you only have satellite internet.

[-] rook@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

We use starlink at work for communicating with some remote customer sites, and it’s been entirely adequate. As a super-subjective latency benchmark, i didn’t notice any particular difference in interactive ssh sessions to the starlink sites, and to the 4g lte sites in the same country. It’s been easier to set up and more reliable that some of the 4g links.

I don’t like the fact that we’e paying elon money, but in the absence of a non-evil, non-ecologically disastrous, reasonably priced alternative, I don’t really have anything to offer management as a replacement. Everything else is either much worse, or more expensive and still worse, or vastly more expensive.

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

these fucks: "Don't make me tap the sign!!!"

the sign: "My final braincell fell out of my open mouth while drooling"

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

An orange kitty can have ketamine or an iphone, but never both.

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago
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