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If I lived in CA, I'd vote for this. But, also, California could easily make it as its own country.
I wish it fucking would.
Washington here. Let's make Cascadia or Pacifica real.
California here. I'm on board.
I'm in Illinois and would like to throw our hat in the ring. We're closer to you than Hawaii is and would make a nice, friendly stop over.
checks facts... Oh, wow! 😱🤓🤙🏽
Sounds good to me!
I'm not even on your coast -- LITERALLY the other side of the continent in New England -- and i am rooting for you SO FUCKING HARD
GLORY TO CASCADIA!
I wish New England would ~~secede~~ get bought by Denmark too...
I always wanted New England to join Canada and be part of the Maritimes so that the time zone would make more sense. And so New Englanders could get healthcare that wasn't tied to employment
Cascadia?
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The land of...
I'd move there if that was what Cascadia meant
evacuate what the dance floor? to? from? ~...on?...~
We’ll set up the GoFundMe for Denmark to buy California, but only on condition that any leftover go toward this coast. We’ll be a colony or territory off Denmark!
Meanwhile Taiwan and the South China Sea goes bye bye, and Russia takes the Baltics.
A new world order. Woo.
This, but not sarcastically.
The current world order sucks big floppy donkey dick.
Not saying that I would want the specific one YOU'RE imagining, but this one has been rotten since its inception. As was the previous one ever since Thatcher, Reagan, and Bananarama established it.
The problem is, so would the fascists, because they think they would win the ensuing civil war, which is a pretty solid bet as long as they are in charge of the military, which they are, and they will stay in charge until they force the civil war that they believe they will win. We are watching it happen in real time. They aren't even waiting for those "catalyzing events" that they are priming for, because they're behind schedule, so they are going to just go ahead anyway. Look, nobody is doing shit about it anyway, and if they did- well yhere you go, martial law and suspended elections straight away.
The military will do as they are told by the chain of command. Who's in command is dictated by a deeply flawed system that only ever pretended to be democratic. These were always the inevitable distal results. Call me doomey. Watch the world and see the facts and call me doomey.
We are not dealing with geniuses here. It's pretty obvious what they planned. It's like watching the evil guys in a dumb marvel movie. It's really not that complicated.
Prophecy over.
You're right. The founding fathers did not intend to create a democracy. They created a republic with elected leaders who were chosen exclusively by wealthy, educated white men.
We certainly can't fault them for not foreseeing how much American society -- and the electorate -- would change and how little the Constitution would change.
I truly believe that if they had any inkling how little we would change the Constitution in 250 years, they would have written a whole article requiring a Constitutional Convention every 25 or 50 years.
Not so fast. We’re in charge of the military’s technology, not r enough of it to make a difference. Let them come but they may be surprised at what they end up targeting
Iirc California as a state has a larger GDP than most nations.
It's 4th or 5th which is insane.
5th previously, but recently we went up to fourth!
I wonder if it would stay like that on its own in a nationally divided disunited states of America.
Nope, we would not. But we're okay going down in the ranks so long as we separate ourselves from the batshit crazy people running the US.
The tariffs would end
Edit: and also the huge tax drain
Yes and also have you seen the real estate prices?
The problem California would have as its own country would be defending the massive border it has with the failed state next door.
If it can solve its water source problem.
I'm sure someone will come in and tell me why this is a dumb idea, which is why I'm asking...
But why wouldn't nuclear power plants and desalination plants render water issues a thing of the past?
Is it no other reason than the hurdles of nuclear boogeymen?
The cost of energy inputs for desalinization and mitigating the environmental impacts of saline outflows make it impractical for many users of water (many irrigation, agriculture, and industrial users.) The Sun still operates the best desalinization plant on a global scale.
Well, there's been breakthroughs that make desalination much more energy efficient https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-09769-3
California’s GDP 9.5x Denmark’s
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=California+gdp%2F+Denmark+gdp
We're voting in 2028. No, really. https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2025-news-releases-and-advisories/Proposed-Initiative-Enters-Circulation-Requires-Future-Vote-on-Whether-California-Should-Become-Independent-Country
I would vote yes knowing full well it would never happen.
Only if the proposal gets enough signatures.
Contact info for Marcus Evans is in the link you posted. If you're in California, ask him how you can add your name to the petition.