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[-] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well... That's a huge block of information.๐Ÿ˜

But, anyway, I've got what you mean. In any case, Lemmy is still in development as I see. So it is hard to tell if the devs are really sticking to authoritarian principles or just haven't implemented the useful features due to other priorities, laziness or other development reasons. All I see in Lemmy is a good, half baked project that just needs some more attention and a bigger userbase.

The main reason I am using it is because of in normal comunities you don't get banned straight away but just have you post/comment deleted. And even if you get banned, it is a real achievement to be banned to use the whole Lemmy federation, not only 1 comunity. While nowadays it is very easy to gain bans on Reddit. So, I am glad to just be in less toxic and more free space despite its disadvantages.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

Hehe it is funny that you mention that... because Dessalines routinely bans people from the entire lemml.ml instance including communities that someone has never even heard of, upon the slightest provocation, citing a rule that doesn't quite exist (somehow rule 1 is contorted to mean not be supportive enough of certain formerly communist nations, despite never explicitly stating that).

Spez (Steve Huffman) did what he did for reasons of profit, whereas Dessalines does what he does for other reasons, but they both are fairly authoritarian.

Lemmy overall is leagues better than Reddit, agreed. Despite being authoritarian in nature, whereas PieFed is significantly less so. You'll see, over time.:-)

[-] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lemmy for now doesn't use inadequate AI system that autobans you for misinterpreted context. Doesn't offer paid tier or whatever. Reddit does everything to gain money and please investors. It was still a good place only a few years ago, but now it doesn't worth using it, since there is much less freedom of word.

I know very well about Lemmy.ml instance and that it is basically a local junkyard with propaganda advertisements from Russia. It isn't worth of even visiting, since there is not much useful content anyway. Basically, if most users will abstain from visiting ml instance, it will remain in isolation by itself providing no direct harm to others. So, instead of fighting with it it is much easier to just ignore it.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

Correct, though profit-seeking isn't quite related to authoritarianism, so that is two reasons that the Threadiverse is vastly superior - and there are so very many more besides, including the 3rd party apps, readability, the more educated user base, really the list goes on and on, I am 100% with you on that point. Really the only things that Reddit has over the Threadiverse now is the larger user base allowing for more niche content, the notification sent about someone's content being removed, and the modmail.

I do celebrate Lemmy's existence, while also offering props to the devs for offering the code for free. And I think they are authoritarian, which I see visible in the manner in which certain things are handled in the code. Fortunately it is not the only implementation of the ActivityPub Protocol on the Threadiverse - there is PieFed, K/Mbin, nodeBB, and others on the way (flarum received a NLnet grant to federate it). Some (non-monetized) competition will do everyone some good here.

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