▲ 700 ▼ 15 People Have Died in Crashes Where Tesla Doors Wouldn’t Open | There are no official statistics on the dangers of electric handles. So Bloomberg did its own analysis. (www.bloomberg.com) submitted 8 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/news@lemmy.world 152 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago (4 children) Can someone explain what was wrong with normal door handles that they would do this? Is it like some Steve Jobs-esque obsession with a car not being a car or something? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago (3 children) They think the extra .01 "mpg" gained from smooth doors is worth the risk. I think most people would agree that it's not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago It's not necessary to have electric door handles for that. Aircraft have been using purely mechanical handles where one side is pushed to make the other stand out enough to pull for decades. Several flush door handle designs requiring no electronics have appeared on cars as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 13 points 8 months ago Nah, then make them pop out on pressing, you don't need an electric actuator permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago It's actually dumber. I'm pretty sure this just got removed because mechanical door handles don't look or sound as cool as electronic door handles. One must remember that Elon Musk is perpetually trapped at 11 years old. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 child) As another commenter pointed out it does have a noticeable impact on mpg, however you can still do flush mounted handles that are fully manual. Basically every other car manufacturer does manual locks except for Tesla and a couple small (less than 10,000 units annually) companies. The thing is electric locks are cheaper, and when you don’t care about safety, you go for the cheapest option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mirshafie@europe.pub 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) The real issue is that they can't be opened from the inside. Unless you locate the mechanical latch, which involves peeling off the rubber lining of the cupholder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Everyone exaggerates. It's not that hidden. See the pic in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago The ghost of Steve Jobs: “blow them shii smoove off” permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) My understanding is that it's related to the frameless glass on the doors, it needs to roll the windows down a smidgen to clear the water seal on the door frame, so you press the button which tells the computer to roll the window down a couple of mm then actuate the door. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cmfhsu@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Every coupe has had this feature for 40 years, before they had electric windows, even. You just dip the window as the door latch actuates, whether the window is electrically or mechanically hooked to the door handle. I have one of those cars in my garage with a fully mechanical door handle, with a mechanical lock for the key and everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago (3 children) They think the extra .01 "mpg" gained from smooth doors is worth the risk. I think most people would agree that it's not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago It's not necessary to have electric door handles for that. Aircraft have been using purely mechanical handles where one side is pushed to make the other stand out enough to pull for decades. Several flush door handle designs requiring no electronics have appeared on cars as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 13 points 8 months ago Nah, then make them pop out on pressing, you don't need an electric actuator permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago It's actually dumber. I'm pretty sure this just got removed because mechanical door handles don't look or sound as cool as electronic door handles. One must remember that Elon Musk is perpetually trapped at 11 years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zak@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago It's not necessary to have electric door handles for that. Aircraft have been using purely mechanical handles where one side is pushed to make the other stand out enough to pull for decades. Several flush door handle designs requiring no electronics have appeared on cars as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 13 points 8 months ago Nah, then make them pop out on pressing, you don't need an electric actuator permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago It's actually dumber. I'm pretty sure this just got removed because mechanical door handles don't look or sound as cool as electronic door handles. One must remember that Elon Musk is perpetually trapped at 11 years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 child) As another commenter pointed out it does have a noticeable impact on mpg, however you can still do flush mounted handles that are fully manual. Basically every other car manufacturer does manual locks except for Tesla and a couple small (less than 10,000 units annually) companies. The thing is electric locks are cheaper, and when you don’t care about safety, you go for the cheapest option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mirshafie@europe.pub 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) The real issue is that they can't be opened from the inside. Unless you locate the mechanical latch, which involves peeling off the rubber lining of the cupholder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Everyone exaggerates. It's not that hidden. See the pic in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) The real issue is that they can't be opened from the inside. Unless you locate the mechanical latch, which involves peeling off the rubber lining of the cupholder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Everyone exaggerates. It's not that hidden. See the pic in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Everyone exaggerates. It's not that hidden. See the pic in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago The ghost of Steve Jobs: “blow them shii smoove off” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) My understanding is that it's related to the frameless glass on the doors, it needs to roll the windows down a smidgen to clear the water seal on the door frame, so you press the button which tells the computer to roll the window down a couple of mm then actuate the door. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cmfhsu@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Every coupe has had this feature for 40 years, before they had electric windows, even. You just dip the window as the door latch actuates, whether the window is electrically or mechanically hooked to the door handle. I have one of those cars in my garage with a fully mechanical door handle, with a mechanical lock for the key and everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cmfhsu@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Every coupe has had this feature for 40 years, before they had electric windows, even. You just dip the window as the door latch actuates, whether the window is electrically or mechanically hooked to the door handle. I have one of those cars in my garage with a fully mechanical door handle, with a mechanical lock for the key and everything. permalink fedilink source parent