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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 59 points 2 months ago

Guy's a creepo, gal puts people down unnecessarily. Both will unwillingly die alone.

[-] chaoticnumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago
[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 27 points 2 months ago

What he says boils down to "I was eavesdropping your conversation, and I assume you're desperate. You might as well lower your standards — date someone random you have no connections with, like me." It's bad; not bad enough to deserve that rude reply, but still bad.

A better approach would be to try to pick up a woman who's alone, offer her a drink*, chitchat a bit, and then ask her for a date. With no references to what she said to other people. Creating some connection between him and her, before he asks her out.

*always ask the bar workers to bring it. Don't bring it yourself.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nah its not creepy. Its perfectly fine to ask her out like that she just didnt want it and rejected him in a bit of an over the top way. Whole thing is no issue. If you are gonna randomly strike up conversations you will get cooked sometimes.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Asking her out would be fine; the problem, as I already explained, is how. However I do agree with you that her answer was over the top, a simple "No." would be the best.

Whole thing is no issue.

It was clearly an issue to the Anon, check the last paragraph.

If you are gonna randomly strike up conversations you will get cooked sometimes.

He wasn't just striking up a conversation.


Additionally (and that's neither side's fault), mob mentality is a plague. She was in a group of four people; people typically behave worse in groups than alone.

[-] treesapx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

"I've been listening to your conversation" is not a good way to start. There are some exceptions, but even then you're starting on thin ice and have to ease into it.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

You shouldnt have to rehearse the perfect line that is impossible to be offended by just to talk to a stranger. We aren't robots. We dont always hit 100% of the time. We stumble and overextend. Expectations have gotten out of hand.

[-] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

you are allowed to stumble on the first line. and it may come off poorly. and if it does the other person is perfectly valid for not wanting to engage further. therefore if you want the other person to continue to engage, you should try not to come off poorly. this isn't some newfangled social phenomenon, it's how basic human interaction has worked for millennia

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[-] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Tai Chi is all about not overextending.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago
[-] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Like there is a practice to maintaining self-control and it works on all levels of the metaphor. Emotional, comfort level, social, whatever. Like I totally agree with you that total perfection is not the goal. But usually its good to demonstrate some composure.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I couldn’t help but overhear you and your loud as fuck, half-drunk friends….

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago

"I couldn't help but hear your drunken rantings."

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 8 points 2 months ago

A better approach would be to try to pick up a woman who’s alone, offer her a drink*,

A bit of a tangent, but I really hate this. Not meaning to call you out, this is a really common recommendation for an icebreaker and it's also reinforced by popular media and the like, but it always feels to me like the implication is that if a man wants to approach a woman, they must buy something for them as part of that process. Like it's a transaction fee to be given a chance.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i date actively.

most women expect you to pay your way into their company. in my city they had a poll, 80% of women expected a man to pay for a nice (expensive) first date otherwise he wasn't worth dating. only 20% of women disagreed with this.

They also polled the men. The male split was 60/40. The hosts on the show where they did the poll had their mind blown how rabidly sexist the women were and immediately went on about how stupid it was and how men and women should each pay their own way until a relationship is established.

[-] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago

Can I get a link to this study, by chance?

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[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I agree, but the location was a bar. Kinda normal at a bar.

[-] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think the way it was handled in the greentext was way more natural and sincere. No idea why it's considered creepy. Buying some random woman a drink is just cringy.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

I get your reasoning, but personally I never interpreted it as a transaction fee. It's more like a token of good will; I do something similar when I find friends in a bar, too.

The main gender problematic I see is:

  1. If a woman approaches a man with a drink, society immediately labels both sides as bad.
  2. In some cases she'd be better off approaching a bear, but she won't know it until it's too late.
[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago

In some cases she’d be better off approaching a bear, but she won’t know it until it’s too late.

Sometimes he'd be better off approaching a bear, too, and also won't know it until it's too late. This isn't a gender thing, this is just a "some people are shitty" thing.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

amen. god forbid we acknowledge there are shitty people in the world, and their gender is irrelevant to their shittness.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

Can't think of a time where I've ever seen a woman at a bar alone.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've seen it plenty, plenty times. Because I was looking for it. That was my "plan A" strategy when I still bothered dating; it works great as long as you know to be assertive without being pushy. (Some people want to be left alone, some only want to chitchat, both things are fine and you should respect that.)

My "plan B" was relying on connections, but that relies on luck. For example:

  • you go to the bar with A
  • A is acquainted with B, who's drinking with C
  • You say "hey, what if we all drink together?"

Then you have some room to at least know B and/or C better. And potentially ask one of them out.

Odds are my "plan B" is not viable for Anon, though - does he even have friends to go to the bar with?

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

Must be different bars. I see groups of women out but can't recall any individuals. Plan b has pretty much been my entire strategy my whole life. Just being in places with women and being nice, funny, and non-threatening got me in with a bunch of different groups. Not always a date but they would vouch for me.

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 2 months ago
[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Not really assumptions, but how it sounds like, in the context of a social setting. Or, if you want: that's how people "read" it.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It’s not eavesdropping. They were having a public conversation at a fucking bar - a place where plenty of people go in attempts to meet new people... If it was a private convo (one that can be eavesdropped on) that’s different. If it was a private conversation, they shouldn’t have been at a location where it’s normal to try flirting with strangers.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

Paying too much attention on the others' conversations, even in a public environment, is creepy.

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[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 months ago

He's not a creep, but he has the emotional intelligence of an insurance investigator.

"Hi, you sound needy and vulnerable" is a rough starting point for a pickup line. He clearly didn't mean it as an insult, but it's not hard to imagine a woman in that situation being embarrassed, feeling exposed, and being insulted by the implication that this guy might be trying to capitalize on her moment of vulnerability.

Hurt-people hurt people.

why do you want me to hurt people though? which people do i hurt?

[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Dear Hurt-people,

I want to clarify; that was a statement about human nature. It was not, and should not be interpreted as, advice or a call to action.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

dark humor, dark humor.

[-] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 12 points 2 months ago

You don't go up to someone and say hey I was listening to you complain about wanting a guy, how about me? and expect a good response.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

"hey, I was just reading you complain about someone, fancy going out on a lemmydate* sometime??"

*I don't actually want to think what a Lemmy date would entail

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

A nice chat about the merits of Arch Linux and a long kneesock showcase.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago

sorry m8 u aren't the one for me 😭

I'm a Lubuntu normie soz

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