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[+] 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (59 children)
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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    Nah its not creepy. Its perfectly fine to ask her out like that she just didnt want it and rejected him in a bit of an over the top way. Whole thing is no issue. If you are gonna randomly strike up conversations you will get cooked sometimes.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    "I've been listening to your conversation" is not a good way to start. There are some exceptions, but even then you're starting on thin ice and have to ease into it.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    You shouldnt have to rehearse the perfect line that is impossible to be offended by just to talk to a stranger. We aren't robots. We dont always hit 100% of the time. We stumble and overextend. Expectations have gotten out of hand.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    you are allowed to stumble on the first line. and it may come off poorly. and if it does the other person is perfectly valid for not wanting to engage further. therefore if you want the other person to continue to engage, you should try not to come off poorly. this isn't some newfangled social phenomenon, it's how basic human interaction has worked for millennia

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Tai Chi is all about not overextending.

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    Like there is a practice to maintaining self-control and it works on all levels of the metaphor. Emotional, comfort level, social, whatever. Like I totally agree with you that total perfection is not the goal. But usually its good to demonstrate some composure.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (20 children)

    A better approach would be to try to pick up a woman who’s alone, offer her a drink*,

    A bit of a tangent, but I really hate this. Not meaning to call you out, this is a really common recommendation for an icebreaker and it's also reinforced by popular media and the like, but it always feels to me like the implication is that if a man wants to approach a woman, they must buy something for them as part of that process. Like it's a transaction fee to be given a chance.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (14 children)

    i date actively.

    most women expect you to pay your way into their company. in my city they had a poll, 80% of women expected a man to pay for a nice (expensive) first date otherwise he wasn't worth dating. only 20% of women disagreed with this.

    They also polled the men. The male split was 60/40. The hosts on the show where they did the poll had their mind blown how rabidly sexist the women were and immediately went on about how stupid it was and how men and women should each pay their own way until a relationship is established.

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    In some cases she’d be better off approaching a bear, but she won’t know it until it’s too late.

    Sometimes he'd be better off approaching a bear, too, and also won't know it until it's too late. This isn't a gender thing, this is just a "some people are shitty" thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Can't think of a time where I've ever seen a woman at a bar alone.

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    Must be different bars. I see groups of women out but can't recall any individuals. Plan b has pretty much been my entire strategy my whole life. Just being in places with women and being nice, funny, and non-threatening got me in with a bunch of different groups. Not always a date but they would vouch for me.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    He's not a creep, but he has the emotional intelligence of an insurance investigator.

    "Hi, you sound needy and vulnerable" is a rough starting point for a pickup line. He clearly didn't mean it as an insult, but it's not hard to imagine a woman in that situation being embarrassed, feeling exposed, and being insulted by the implication that this guy might be trying to capitalize on her moment of vulnerability.

    Hurt-people hurt people.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    why do you want me to hurt people though? which people do i hurt?

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You don't go up to someone and say hey I was listening to you complain about wanting a guy, how about me? and expect a good response.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    "hey, I was just reading you complain about someone, fancy going out on a lemmydate* sometime??"

    *I don't actually want to think what a Lemmy date would entail

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