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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Palantir exists, every cyberpunk warned us, and it’s definitely not going to be good for the average person

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They named it Palantir! The thing that was awesome that everyone then had to stop using because someone ruined it for everyone else.

they kneeeeeeewwwwwwww!!!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s Peter thiel’s surveillance company. It’s just open and blatant

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

He's a LotR nerd btw. He definitely knows.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We are communicating right now over a medium that those "cyberpunks" warned us about.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Cyberpunks" weren't warning us about the internet - they were warning us about the corporations who will control it, and through it, us. We are trying explicitly not to communicate on that medium by using Lemmy (that medium encompasses Reddit, X, the various properties of Meta and Alphabet)

Science fiction mentioning a technology, even centering around it, doesn't mean it's saying the technology is universally bad. The author highlights the dangers, but the tech itself is almost always portrayed as neutral. It's the people who use it to nefarious ends that science fiction is warning us about.

Like the people who would seek to profit off of the Torment Nexus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, please pardon my ignorance, but what the fuck is a Torment Nexus?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The concept of the "Torment Nexus" is a placeholder for any technology specifically described as dystopian or otherwise contributing to suffering in fiction, such as mass surveillance, mind control technology, and so on. The meme refers to modern-day corporations missing the point of the fiction, and creating said "Torment Nexus" as something they view as "cool" and "futuristic". In some cases, the companies are self-aware enough to not pretend that their creation is anything other than dystopian, but in many cases they try to sell the new technology to the public as a good thing despite that very tech being described as dystopian already.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And look at how much harm this medium has done to the world in addition to all the good.

It is very bittersweet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NO cyberpunk was afraid of the fucking internet. The problem has always been the economic mode of production underlying it, which is unironically dystopian. Also the tech world we live in is PRETTY fucking dystopian, get your head out of your ass.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I don't presume to know your life, but in my experience, it's not dystopian if you live in the real world too. Unless you just meant climate change.