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When a clothing store opened in Cedar Glen, Calif., in the summer of 2021, the owner hung a Pride flag at the entrance, her friends recalled. Whenever someone would tear down the flag, owner Laura Carleton would raise another one.

But after someone complained about the flag on Friday, the encounter turned deadly.

A man arrived at the store, Mag.pi, around 5 p.m. and criticized Carleton’s Pride flag before he shot her, according to the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department. Carleton, 66, was pronounced dead at the scene.

The shooter, whom authorities have not publicly identified, died following “a lethal force encounter” with deputies after the shooting, the sheriff’s department said in a statement.

Community members have since rallied around Carleton’s store, placing Pride flags, flowers, candles and photos of Carleton in front of it. Matthew Clevenger of Lake Arrowhead LGBTQ+ said Carleton was a strong ally of the LGBTQ+ community.

“She was a fierce protector of everybody being who they wanted to be,” Clevenger told The Washington Post.

Carleton, who went by Lauri, began working in fashion as a teenager at her family’s business, Fred Segal in Los Angeles, according to Mag.pi’s website. After graduating from the ArtCenter College of Design in Pasadena, Calif., Carleton worked at a retail store before joining Kenneth Cole in the 1980s. Carleton worked for the fashion company for more than 15 years as an executive.

In 2013, Carleton founded her clothing store, Mag.pi, on Ventura Boulevard in Studio City, Calif. She added a second store in Cedar Glen in 2021. While she built her career, Carleton married her husband and took pride in their blended family of nine children, her store’s website says.

Carleton was one of the largest donors to Lake Arrowhead LGBTQ+ and attended the organization’s Pride boat parade in June, Clevenger said. A section of Mag.pi was dedicated to rainbow-colored products, and she displayed rainbow candles by the cash register, he said.

Carleton helped create a culture in which the LGBTQ+ community felt accepted, Clevenger said. But some community members were still resistant, he added, and took down Mag.pi’s Pride flag multiple times.

After making “disparaging remarks” about the Pride flag on Friday, a man shot Carleton before fleeing, according to the sheriff’s department. He was holding a handgun when deputies found him on a nearby road, where he later died, officials said.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not saying this to cast doubt on anything, I believe the reason given for the attack, I'm simply curious (probably because I used to be a first responder). One thing I haven't seen explained in the articles I've read about this story is how do we know that he assaulted her for the flag and then shot her? Who called 911? How did they know who the suspect was?

The most plausible explanation to me is she was still alive when the cops got there but died before the paramedics were able to transport her, so she was able to tell them something, since no witnesses were mentioned. Second most plausible is there were witnesses.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wasn't she killed in her store? Virtually every store these days has security cameras. As for who called 911, guns are loud. Unless you're in the middle of nowhere, there will be people who hear the gun shot, even if they don't see what happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes but I thought I read somewhere that the shooter was confronted soon after (a couple hours?) which would be very fast to find and go through security footage. And yes about the gun, but that wouldn't necessarily get them the motive and description of the suspect. It doesn't really matter to me that much anyway, it was just an unknown aspect of a story I am interested in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Having a security camera doesn't mean their monitored off-site. A lot(maybe most) of the time they aren't. But agreed that guns are loud.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Craziest exception to the hearsay rule is the dying declaration.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I'm not questioning the reason for the attack but how do we know that's the reason."

It's acceptable to question sources. This story is definitely likely true, but there also plenty of cases of stuff written online(and what police say) being untrue and it's okay to probe it a little.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, but with the amount of trolling some people do regarding LGBT stuff I wanted to be very clear I'm not one of them. Since every article is stating it as fact and not using "alleged" I assume the journalists know with some certainty, but I haven't seen it detailed anywhere.