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[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 78 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What happens in UK is so much sadder because the left party is in power (at least 'the left' one of the two). Makes me feel hopeless, like all paths lead to totalitarianism.

yes I'm very upset over text only smut wdym

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Labour has been openly rightist since the 80s. There are not many places remaining for leftists in the English speaking world.

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 months ago

I heard Aussie Labor is a lot better but idk

[-] mofreak@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

better only by comparison, lol they have their own social media ID bill that will eventually be expanded imo

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

Same sort of weird things starting to happen too in Canada with “liberal” Carney.

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I don’t think anyone thinks of Carney as actually left wing. He’s a banker.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

He dis not run under left wing, he ran as a Liberal. He is showing that he is not a liberal so far.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Makes me feel hopeless, like all paths lead to totalitarianism.

all paths can lead to totalitarianism.

depend on what flavor you want though. I'm partial to leftist totalitarian rule, because I would rather everyone be accepted than only "them" be accepted.

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago

I think I'd rather let assholes be assholes than to let governments have the power to legislate undesirable behaviour (beyond basic violence and shit).

Just can't see it creating a dignifying world no matter how good your intentions and planning are.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

you're not wrong, but how can we combat conservative fascism unless we use socialist fascism?

unless we use the anarchist method of chaos and violence until unity, but that could take decades and billions of lives.

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago

Progressivism cannot be authoritarian in my head, that's something else I'm not willing to be a part of.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Imagine a society that imprisons citizens because they refuse to serve homosexuals, or uses derogatory terms towards people of color.

Imagine a society that forcibly taxes the wealthy to ensure the poorest can be cared for.

Imagine a society that takes over a company because they are mistreating workers.

that's progressive authoritarianism, that's socialism.

I would much rather prefer it to the current brand of fascism growing in the US today.

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

Imprisoning people for bigotry sounds kinda horrid. Committee of decrepit old farts deciding which slur puts you away for how many years? no thank you

The rest is normal imo, most people would not call taxes and labor rights authoritarian.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

the wealthy did, that's how we got here.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

we as a species need to move past ownership, profit motive, and false scarcity or were going to keep killing eachother over nothing

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

Labour have always been pretty authoritarian. I didn't vote for this shit.

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