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Politicians Will Not Save Us. (lemmy.zip)
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Grassroots organization will save us.

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[–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I've heard this brought up a lot. First of all, fuck Cuomo. Any rational person should be supporting Zohran over any of the other candidates.

But also, is there an actual worry about the ticket getting split or non-votes and allowing the Republican to win? That's essentially what "vote Blue" is about.

Also, progressives have one candidate that is obviously better than the alternative, even if they don't like both. Moderates aren't necessarily convinced. It's just a different argument.

Although, if they are and they still just don't like them, I'm 100% telling them to get off their ass and vote to stop the nazis.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    is there an actual worry about the ticket getting split or non-votes and allowing the Republican to win

    Nope. The Republican candidate is perennial loser and insanely racist vigilante Curtis Sliwa. Nobody thinks he has a chance, including himself. He's purely in it for the PR and donations.

    That's essentially what "vote Blue" is about.

    Nope. That's their excuse to force "electable" (read: right wing and corrupt) candidates on voters who would much rather have someone who'll faithfully represent their wants and needs but scared of getting someone even worse.

    Adams the fascist cop (but I repeat myself) won his primaries by a fraction of a percentage (after a full court press propaganda campaign on his behalf by both major parties and all NYC-based MSM) and they were immediately falling over each other to declare him "the future of the party"

    Mamdani beats the establishment favorite in a surprise landslide and they're all pretending that he's a communist terrorist that somehow snuck in against the will of everyone.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The "Vote Blue No Matter Who" is in fact about keeping Republicans out of power. I've been telling people to vote blue no matter who in reference to Mamdani, who is supported by the vast majority of state and federal democrats and trouncing all other candidates combined in polls including the Trump supporting third party Cuomo.

    The reason there is a perceived rift is because monied powers such as Israel and China WANT there to be a rift.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If that's what it is about it failed. We need to move on.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it is failing, because people aren't doing it, and the result is Republicans keep winningm

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's not going to change unless the DNC changes first.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean some are, and their support of Cuomo is worthy of condemnation. But it's worth pointing out 'vote blue no matter who' cuts both ways and 100% it means Mamdani.

    Broadly I hate the whole 'party' system and getting stuck with a 'team sport' mentality, but at least for now, for the national races I have to be pragmatic and steer into the skid of party politics. The local/state level I can afford to be more nuanced as for now, neither big party is as scary locally as the GOP is federally.

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