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From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it's clear that there's no winning over these people. Everything is "Kremlin propaganda" to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the "hateful rhetoric" and "Kremlin talking points" BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future...

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Annoying internet arguments aside, the people on the ground in the core also face the most expansive and advanced police state mankind has created yet. This makes doing anything close to truly subversive impossible without extreme precautions. Some Ferguson organizers dying (being murdered imo) comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I feel like this is a copout.

This is an overwhelming case of too many labor aristocrats that can't abandon their class interests.

The way some of you are hyperfixated about Ukraine, cling to China as to fulfill their "communist" promise, and go on being defeatist about America is baffling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Where in my comment did I give anyone an out? I simply added to the conversation by stating a difficulty of organizing.

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