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In the same week large swaths of the US were under extreme heat warnings, Joe Biden’s Justice Department filed its most recent motion to dismiss a landmark climate case by arguing that nothing in the Constitution guarantees the right to a secure climate.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By that logic, they cannot guarantee the freedom of speech either though. They can try very hard, and do their best to make amends for when it's breached, but many people have been silenced illegally by the US government. They can try, but they cannot promise this fact.

I don't see why one couldn't apply the same to climate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US government will not jail you for exercising free speech. That's what free speech is. The government can not censor free speech, and they do not. To protect your right to free speech, all the government needs to do is nothing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are supposed to, but it happens. There is a reason we have appeals courts stranger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the point of those courts is to decide what is or is not free speech.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go read original post, this is literally what I am saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're just making conjecture about how the US denies people free speech.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m citing it happens, something you yourself have agreed with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i never agreed that they jail people for exercising free speech. that's not how this works.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you claiming no appeals court had ever ruled someone was exercising free speech after a lower court jailed them? Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're using the world jailed to mean arrested or charged, that's now what we are talking about. anyone can be put in jail for no reason for 24 hours. that doesn't mean much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can be sentenced and appeal from jail stranger. You don’t just sit free if you have an appeal. It’s extremely situational.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, that's the point of the system.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which again, read the origional post stranger lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

really productive "the courts exist", great addition the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Says the person jumping in to agree aggressively

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're not contributing, you're acting like the courts make the entire thing invalid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

No, I am demonstrating that the argument doesn’t hold water on even first order inspection. And you seem to be upset that you don’t understand that.

Kindly stop wasting my time and go away.