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Do these people believe in their own propaganda about how economy works that austerity-led growth is possible?

Is it that they don't care about the party or their own reputation?

I hope Corbyn and the Greens don't fall for the same fiscal responsibility nonsense. Never give the neoliberals an inch.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

Just a random thought : they don't give a fuck about winning or the working class. They care about the material comfort from kissing the ass of the rich.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I don't think you're wrong about this, I'm just surprised how short-termist they're being. You'd think that by just making the minimum amount of concessions, they'd walk to victory in the next election. But instead, they just double down, opening the door for uncle Nigel to skulk right in.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I realise this is just vibes coming from me, but as long as I've been alive (40+ years), "centre-left" parties have been pulling this "why the fuck are they forgetting their working people" shit. Parties like Labour from whatever country, the Democrat party from the US, Liberal party in Canada, SPD in Germany, etc. I'm sure I'll be 80 and listening to people wonder why Labour and the Democrats won't do anything to prevent an offensive nuclear attack in the water wars of 2060.

People smarter than me have analysed how bourgeois parliaments make careerists out of supposed left leaders. AOC and Bernie Sanders seem to be the most obvious examples of this.

Edit: sorry if this comes of as debating you. I'm agreeing with you.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

sorry if this comes of as debating you. I’m agreeing with you.

Not all, I agree with what you wrote. I suppose, to put it clearly, I'm surprised how far and how fast labour abandoned their supporters. You're right, there's plenty of historical precedent, it's just shocking (to me, personally) to see the extent of it.

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