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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • Geography
  • Geology
  • Giraffe
  • Generous

Just a few examples that come to mind. Additionally, the pronunciation of the individual words included in an acronym DOES NOT determine the pronunciation of that acronym. See SCUBA as an example.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Good and very informative, thank you.

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I'm still gonna pronounce it (G)IF though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This, and Gig Git Girl Gibbon Gift Gill Giddy Gigahertz Gimmick Gizzard

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Jit is not git!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as you don't shame others with reasons that don't make sense, you can pronounce it gif for all I care

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Sure, agree to disagree.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iafa959JvY - Literally this but with any example either way depending on what side you're on.

It's GIF. Just because you create something doesn't mean you aren't fucking dumb. Eventually, it's no longer yours anyway lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Counterpoint: Gift

Literally has gif in it and is pronounced with a hard 'g'.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We don’t pronounced words by what other words they contain. “Americano” is not “American+o.” “Fare” is not “far+e.”

~~For some reason, the hard G advocates for “gif” seem to make up fake language rules to justify pronouncing it wrong.~~

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Do you have any examples of words changed by adding a consonant? Additional vowels in words, such as your examples, usually change how a word is pronounced

Also, your attack in the second paragraph is unneeded and contributes nothing to the debate. If an argument cannot be based on logic alone, I ask that you do not make it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tom and tomb

And I agree, I’ll remove it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I acknowledge that you fulfilled my request but personally remain unconvinced using those examples. Tom is generally a nickname for Thomas and borrows pronunciation from that.

However I did remember the words kin and kind but there's also tin and tint. So I'm just going to declare English overall as highly inconsistent and silly, will still pronounce gif with a hard g, but recognize that you have a different point of view. 🙂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Tom is a name for a male animal.

“Bot” and “both” may be more your style. Or, to stick with g, “gin” has a soft g while “gink” has a hard g.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

LOL, arguing about English pronunciation based on spelling? Really?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Friend this is the internet, if you're seriously expecting 0 trash-talk with your discussions then you're in the wrong place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Counter counter point. The inventor of the gif said it’s pronounced like the peanut butter. It’s already been settled.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just because somebody who made a word wants to pronounce it a certain way doesn't mean that's others will pronounce it.

Heck, look at the at history of the word tomato. Came from the native Nahuatl word tomatl, which was changed to tomate for Spanish and then tomato for English. The British are closer to both the native Nahuatl and Spanish pronunciations of the word but few Americans will say it as "tuh-maa-tow".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean that’s literally how it works. You pronounced the peanut butter with a soft J. You probably pronounce Lyft as Lift and JoS A Bank as Joseph A Bank. What a company chooses to name its product (gif was a product trying to be sold to software devs) they can choose however they want it to be pronounced. If you stop thinking of gif as a normal word and more as a product that was and continues to be sold then it makes a lot more sense why they literally gave it a catchphrase; “choosy developers choose gif”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And the person we’re responding here to also uses an example of language that evolved to what it is over a 300 year period FROM changes that happened between language barriers - Central American natives to Spanish to English (of which there are 2 variations).

The hard G or soft are pronounceable by the majority of the world. It’s not really a language barrier or change - it’s just inability to admit that maybe they were wrong in how they read it in their head and make the verbal change when evidence is provided.

With that said, they can continue to pronounce it with a hard g but it’s just being obstinate at this point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

JPEG is the best direct example. Who pronounces the F sound?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My giant german friend George Gerard gestates and raises giraffes in genuine need of gentle geriatric care. Such a gentleman.

It's jif.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For your SCUBA example, is it the U you're talking about?

Underwater vs oonderwater?

Scuhba vs Scooba?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Also, the A stands for Apparatus, so it should be scuhbah since it's Apparatus, not uhpparatus

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Scuhba has me laughing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep the U. Scubba dubba doo!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

do you have a problem with my ˌɡiˈʁafə