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this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2025
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This is such a weird take.
All of us use technology to make our lives easier, to supplement skills we don't want to sink perfectionist-level time into, to enjoy "good enough" results in one area or another.
This kind of holier-than-thou hyperbolic snobbery does nothing to generate actual thoughtful reflection of where to draw the line with technology dependence and only distracts and detracts from actually good critiques of generative AI's ethics and other negative effects. I wish this sub didn't allow low-effort meme posts because it's such a brain rot circle-jerk.
You said something here that is pertinent, but also revealing. We all use technology everyday to make our lives easier, but does it? The automatic transmission cited above allowed anyone with a pulse the ability to get behind the wheel of a car rather than putting in any effort to acquire the skill to operate a motor vehicle. Great for the people who built our car-ciety, we have all suffered for it, including inaccessible essential services w/o one and getting stuck in traffic caused in the most part by people who should never be behind a wheel of a car. Do you want people writing books and creating art that have no business writing books or creating art? Cause we've got that now. Great...
I don't think automatic transmissions are in any way responsible for car centric urban planning, Europe has plenty of it and the transition to automatics is very slow and quite recent.
I agree far too many people are allowed to drive when they shouldn't but people dying on the road is more socially acceptable than stringent standards for being allowed to operate lethal machines at insanely high speeds (in terms of kinetic energy at least).
Yes, the automatic transmission is not solely responsible, but it was a means to an end. How can we get more people in cars? Make it easier to drive! Brilliant. Except now we have this... It's irrational but it's my brain and I can do what I want with it!
Too true. Cars and motorized vehicles make everything too easy. Lets go back to horses. But even that is making people less capable of walking long distance. Lets go back to the good old days of not technology at all!
Ohhh so edgy. Fucking daft loser can't read, just like the rest of the idiots trolling the socials. If we didn't have technology, I wouldn't have to hear from idjits like your dumb ass, so at least there'd be that.
🙄 Yes. If you disagree with something this obvious, please write me a lengthy letter explaining why and send it by horse & buggy mail carrier. I promise, I'll read and respond just as soon as I'm able.
🤮🤮🤮 Maybe we should require an intelligence test before allowing people to post their opinions on the internet too? Or have children?
If you actually think that disallowing some people to create art because they aren't "good enough," then you aren't really defending art or artists at all.
The point is we value people who are at the top of their specific game for a reason. When the barriers to access are removed, that's great, but it dilutes the end game product over all. Sorry not sorry. Easier lives makes dumber people I guess? Boy that's so cool! I get it, busy people can use AI to make their days less busy, but people who aren't too busy are using it and getting dumber for it. Prove me wrong. Yes technology has a myriad of benefits, but also a myriad of pitfalls too. Weird, eh? I'm not disallowing people from making art, but no one should or would buy it in a real world environment. I would ask, what value does it add to the world? Art is an expression of the artist interpreting the world. AI art is rubbish and it gives you exactly what you ask for. Cool? Maybe, but not art.
Again, this whole idea that you need to make an argument about the tradeoffs of technology in general in order to make an argument against AI is weak and needless. Do you have a smart phone you use the calculator on sometimes, or do you write out all your long-form division? Is everyone who owns a microwave, uses tax preparation software, or switches to an electric toothbrush just a lazy dumb-dumb in your mind?
This is just talking out of both sides of your mouth trying to sound fair and balanced instead of actually making a good argument. "AI art is rubbish" -- yes!!! We don't need vacuous, hypocritical hot takes on using technology to say that.
That's not the only thing I'm talking about, but it seemed relevant to the post? Way to fixate on one thing I am saying instead of just agreeing with me? I thought an argument was supposed to be thought out? I'm not just talking about AI though. I really hate the automatic transmission if you really want to know. Like, it doesn't rule my life or anything, I just think it has allowed stupid people to get in my way. AI art is slop and I'm not afraid of being replaced. Just so we are clear!
You are mad at automatic transmission too? Maybe you should also consider the method in which you are having this conversation before attacking types technology. Tech has always been about making things easier.
Damn people are stupid. See what I mean, you can't even read that I am not against technology, only that it has consequences. People are fucking dense.
I may say you are right, but AI is not just a tool...
AI is literally just a tool. Just because it might have potential to replace certain tasks doesn't make it something else. A robot can automate a task to allow for automated production lines but just because it can replace a previous task doesn't make it not a tool.
Well, thanks to AI, art may soon die. Well, you've heard of AI agents. Those who control them will brazenly take over the market and push out real artists and writers, and then there's this AI moderation. Damn, at this rate, authors will have to sell offline so their work doesn't get stolen or banned, lol
It doesn't do that at all. People creating great art isn't going away. Stop being a dumb gatekeeper too.
This is not a fact, capitalism is a cruel thing, so real authors who write with pain and realism will be increasingly difficult to find among the AI garbage.
Who is gatekeeping?! Just cause I don't feel the same as you doesn't mean you can't do a thing? Technology is great, but it can also be stupid, and dangerous, and misused and by golly, even detrimental.
By golly you are right we should stop people from using hammers too. Think about it people can misuse them and hit their thumbs or break things. They are so detrimental to society. If people dont try and hammer in nails with their thick skulls everyone's life's gonna get so much easier and less busy as they stop having to go to the doctor to get stitches all the time and as a consequence they are all going to get so much more stupid.
Jarvis, explain what the hell this means.
Oh, I understood the sentiment just fine. I'm asking why it's unintelligible. We'll ban hammers so that people won't need head stitches...?
So long as we're doing petty jabs, maybe you should have run this run-on sentence through an AI grammar checker.
Ooh, look at the troll a'trollin. Whoo what a wanker