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This doesn't make sense to me.
If you install features over time, it's because you want to use them, if you want to use them, it's not bloat.
If it's to try it, and it's not for you, why not just remove the package again?
I can't say for others, but my system definitely does not get bloated over time.
On the contrary, I remove preinstalled features I don't use, when I get tired of seeing them updating.
Bold of you to assume people have perfect knowledge of what they installed and what they use and how much.
I just copy and paste things into the terminal until whatever I wanted is installed and running.
I spent 3hrs yesterday troubleshooting an issue that ultimately came from forgetting I had installed firewalld in addition to ufw, had both enabled, and obviously their rule lists were seperate.
I almost certainly got there by doing a tutorial "brain off"
Same. Also if I can't get it to work I rarely put in the effort to uninstall all the bits I've added.
I feel targeted
This is the way
Time for me to be that person
Well, with nixos you can just use your config and set up almost everything declaratively and as long as you keep it tidy, have a good overview of your system:)
Looking at my packages a few months later:
What in the heck is a samba?
Are you saying you don't know when you install additional packages?
How does that work?
Install, try out, forget about it.
Being mindless about anything has pretty similar results, I don't see the point of this?
Forget you have a car parked in your garage and it will get dirty over time.
Maybe not the best analogy, but if you don't give a shit, things tend to fall apart.
Exactly and then from time to time your clear out and clean the garage. Hence the original post.
OK, except the post indicate building a new garage to get rid of the unused car.
Kind of overkill IMO.
What? No.
Going with the garage analogy, it's like buying a dirty car vs getting a new one and it getting dirty over time
Your garage is now very big and you can try out thousands of cars for free.
Gonna raise the notion that a good, usable piece of software would not require much, if any level of awareness on this front, since most users aren't willing or able to have that awareness in the first place.
The way this should work is you click on things you want in a package manager and then those are present and available transparently whether you use them or not. That goes for all OSs.
Hell, even Android's semi-automatic hybernating of unused apps is a step too close to my face, as far as I'm concerned.
Isn't that how it is, hence the meme that people accumulate bloteware* over time because they keep installing and not using but not going back and uninstalling,
At least for me I'd open up the package manager and see all these new and recommended software and think oh cool I'll get into ASCII art if I install this, and of course never actually run it, last time I had like three metronomes
For me it got particularly bad back when I was running Manjaro and the GUI package manager showed you multiple package types for the same software all the time. Three metronomes is bad, but three differently packaged versions of Steam is worse and potentially unrecoverable.