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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Ah, but if you said anything against the blue (but not in favor of red), you were the vile, evil... CENTRIST! (I.e. a label just applied to you to single you out for not blindly agreeing with the zeitgeist.) Seriously, the front page of Lemmy for a good while was just toxic political "VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO" and if you didn't agree, you were just a problem.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

The critical part of 'vote blue no matter who' is the voting part. That's the game plan short-term when it's election season.

That does not preclude criticizing the incumbents. Or even the candidates. But no matter how you feel about them, you vote for them to stave off misery, and encourage everyone around you to do the same.

Not voting for them sends a message, but it's the wrong message - and that message is that the populace prefers the GOP. Stop fascism in its tracks and vote blue. Fight for actual progress by doing what you can to forward actual progressive candidates and policies. Like NYC is doing right now.

It boggles my mind how people seem to be incapable of wrapping their head around that concept, and instead continue to insist that we shouldn't be voting for DNC candidates because


uh - it'll make things better??? Somehow??? At this point, the willful ignorance is starting to smack of sealioning.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Not voting for them sends a message, but it’s the wrong message - and that message is that the populace prefers the GOP

Hard disagree on that. That's assuming the intentions of the people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_are_either_with_us,_or_against_us

If you're argument is that we need to be doing what's right and pushing for progress, then why is that cast as something ONLY the "blue" can do? I don't know how old you are to see how many times the "blue" has absolutely failed at their job, failed the people, but for no other reason than they're in the right party, they keep getting voted in. But I've seen several "blue" presidents do anywhere from fuckall to the bare minimum in terms of progress/change.

There are other options to vote for that don't just include the GOP as you seem to suggest. The US isn't supposed to be just a 2 party system. It's supposed to be dynamic; these parties are supposed to die off when they no longer represent the people. If you want progress and change, but keep doing the same thing that doesn't seem to be all that progressive.... are you making any progress?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Hard disagree on that. That’s assuming the intentions of the people.

No it's not. It's acknowledging the fact that campaigning politicians largely view people as one of the following:

  • With us
  • Against us
  • Someone we might be able to persuade to be with us
  • Not relevant

If you don't vote, they categorise you in that last one. It doesn't matter what's in your heart, what matters is how they perceive you. The only tool you have to change that is your vote.

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