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Still Don't Sleep Though (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

But that video basically tells you straight-out… the usual campaign strategies are clearly wrong. You put out a campaign that gets people excited and suddenly way more people get out to vote. It's not a complicated theory. It clearly works in practice.

All of this conversation though, just shows how fucking poor democracy based around voter turnout is. Put elections on a weekend or make it a public holiday, and make voting mandatory (with the option of a blank ballot for those who really object to voting). It doesn't solve all your problems. But it sure does help a lot.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Bruh. If you voted, they’d cater their advertising to you. The candidates are still there, you’re not voting for them, and blaming the lack of advertising. That’s like blaming lettuce for not advertising salads and complaining about always eating McDonald’s.

    Do you want to take control of your government or not?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I vote. I'm not American, in case my instance name didn't give it away. I'd vote even if I didn't want to, because it's mandatory to do so, one of several vast improvements my country has over yours in the quality of our democratic processes.

    But did you watch the video you linked in the last comment? Because it completely turns your argument on its head. You say "if you voted, they'd cater to you". But that video clearly demonstrates that the exact inverse is true. If you want to get out the vote in a large segment of the Zero Primes, all you have to do is run as exciting campaign with bold progressive policies. The evidence is all laid out there in front of you, even in common sense couldn't get you there.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Both things can be true.

    A good campaign can get people into the voting booth.

    A demographic that fails to show up when you think you've done everything that makes sense to get them out can cause them to give up on the demographic. They may be woefully misinformed about what they should be doing, but since they don't know any better, they are likely to just give it up as a lost cause.

    Show up in the primaries for the candidate you want, it's the only realistic way to break the chicken and egg of the establishment ignoring the voters that don't show up and the voters not showing up for the establishment that ignores them. If the establishment is surprised by the primary outcome, that's the strongest wakeup call for them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Of course that’s all the donors have to do. That’s how we get a wolf in sheep’s clothing. We need grassroots primary candidates, and they run all the time. We just don’t do our civic duty and vote in every election.

    To give you an idea of how bad it’s gotten, the average turnout for congressional primaries is less than 15% for the last 30 years. That’s why we have this government. We’ve been letting retirees pick conservative centrist Democrats and push the Overton Window to the right for decades.

    Edit: You’re going to downvote my factual information in favor of your disenfranchising bullshit? Bruh. You don’t even go here.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    You’re going to downvote my factual information in favor of your disenfranchising bullshit? Bruh. You don’t even go here.

    Nope. I didn't even see your comment until after the edit. I am going to downvotes because of the edit, though. Probably woulda upvoted otherwise.

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