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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

This is incorrect. Look up the “duck curve” or if you prefer real-world examples look at the California electricity market (CAISO) where they have an excellent “net demand curve” that illustrates the problem.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

This curve has changed somewhat since this study in 2016. More efficient home insulation, remote working, and energy-efficient cooling systems have large impact in this pattern. But assuming you have a well-insulated home, setting your thermostat to maintain a consistent temperature throughout the day will shift this peak earlier and lower the peak load at sunset, when many people are returning home. More efficient heat pumps with variable pressure capabilities also helps this a lot, too.

Given just how many variables are involved, it's better to assume peak cooling load to be mid-day and work toward equalizing that curve, rather than reacting to transient patterns that are subject to changes in customer behavior. Solar installations are just one aspect of this mitigation strategy, along with energy storage, energy-efficient cooling systems, and more efficient insulation and solar heat gain mitigation strategies.

If we're discussing infrastructure improvements we might as well discuss home efficiency improvements as well.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Ok now go just one step further and ask yourself what variables factor into this.

There's a reason that pattern exists, and it isn't because solar and cooling hours don't align.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

the difference between demand and net demand in that graph is purely solar/wind generation, isn't it?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Essentially, yea. That, and reduced demand from people setting their thermostats to relax their cooling temps while they're away from home. We should honestly be grateful that we're able to produce so much more energy from solar than what we need for active cooling. It's a good problem to have.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

that thermostat factor reduces actual demand by a little, doesn't impact the net difference per se.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

From the pov of the utility, sure. But in terms of absolute energy use it's possibly the only way to account for that fluctuation.

This is why this debate is so frustrating - producing energy from solar is of huge benefit, but instead of talking about how best to put that production to use, we're talking about the problem it creates for utilities who don't want to adapt to the distributed production.

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