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Can't just let a dying person go home and die in peace. Let's extract every bit of capitalist value we can from them first.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

It’s no different than what labour are doing with the disabled, acting like it’s a favour to disabled people to force them back into work because it’s what’s best for them

It's very different.

One is protecting employees from dismissal and making employers offer working conditions that suit terminally ill employees. It does not force employees to stay at work and it does not cancel any benefits.

The other is cutting benefits to force disabled people into work they are not fit to do.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

It does not force employees to stay at work and it does not cancel any benefits. The other is cutting benefits to force disabled people into work they are not fit to do.

The 2 policies are part of the same machine. The whole point is to keep more workers in the economy to boost the profit rate.

This policy in particular reduces the "excuse" that some dying and/or disabled people might have that they cannot find work because their employer fired them. This policy makes the other policy more effective, and also acts as propaganda/social conditioning to make the other policy go down more easily.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It's not a government policy, it's a trade union initiative. UK government signed the charter as an employer of 2 mln civil servants. It's a good thing when large employers concede to trade unions and give their workers more rights. It's a small improvement but that's what trade unions do, they try to negotiate better working conditions and rights with employers, they don't cardinally change the system.

Fuck Starmers govt, but let's not piss on the work trade unions do and present fight against unfair dismissals as some nefarious plot to exploit the people.

This policy in particular reduces the “excuse” that some dying and/or disabled people might have that they cannot find work because their employer fired them.

It's not a policy and it absolutely does not do that. It has no effect on whether people qualify for benefits or not. All it does is that employers who sign up to this charter vouch to not fire their employees for getting ill, and to be supportive in finding suitable working arrangements. It doesn't prevent employees from leaving their jobs and it doesn't diminish their chances of getting benefits.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

It's not a government policy, it's a trade union initiative. UK government signed the charter as an employer of 2 mln civil servants.

Yes, that is the policy I am talking about. The UK government wants this initiative to be expanded, so it signing onto this charter. It's a fairly standard thing for governments to trial potential policies by implementing them on their own employees. The government signing on also further normalises the initiative, giving it momentum that could be used to create a national law.

It's a good thing when large employers concede to trade unions and give their workers more rights.

The move should be considered in a broader context. Suppose starmer's government manages to make this initiative into a national wide law. This would represent a victory for the trade unions? Certainly. Would it, in theory constitute an extra right? Yes. In a better context, would this be a nice law to have? Yeah.

However, in the context of starmer's broader eugenics agenda, it would be a win for the eugenicists. It would give them ammunition to point how the dying and disabled don't need government assistance because they can get a job and can't be fired for having a terminal illness. It plays right into that narrative in a time where the UK government knows that their disability benefit cuts are controversial.

If the government was increasing benefits, or expanding them, or making them easier to get or anything of that sort of nature, I would in fact be praising this very initiative/move.

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