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Bamboozled. (lemmy.world)
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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately too many people decided she didn’t hate Israel enough and sat out the election. And the democrats aren’t changing either way.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago

Which entertaining that Harris was as bad as Trump on Israel/Gaza policy (she wasn't), every person who sat out objectively said, "I also don't care about Russia's genocide in Ukraine, Women's bodily autonomy, climate change, vaccination policy, or LGBTQ+ rights."

Suckers fell for the bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

In a winner-take-all election, anything but a vote for the runner-up is an endorsement of whoever wins.

Yes, this system is stupid. But we're not going to ever fix it by pretending that the rules of the game aren't what they are. Any eligible voter who didn't vote for Trump or Harris make a clear statement that Donald and protect 2025 were just fine by them. Regardless if they stayed home, voted for a vanity campaign, or just left the POTUS choice blank.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Yes. If you did not vote for Harris in an essentially two-party election, you condoned Trump and allowed him to do everything he is doing now. You can’t pretend you had no part in it, because you supported his election.

If you voted for Harris, you voted to stop Trump and Project 2025. Ie, you believed in our country, wrong or right.

Otherwise, you decided that our country was no longer worth preserving, and you handed it to people who told you they would tear it apart to “get even” with half its citizens.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

If anything, they learned the wrong lessons

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I've seen polls showing that many progressives voted and many right-leaning democrats didn't so I think the answer is to lean harder right to capture those votes.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Biggest flaw IMO is it seems like they just are going with a binary "left -- right". rather than specific issues as well.

IE, when the democratic party "leans right", they adopt, cut taxes on corporations, they basically give the right their narratives.

IE Republicans on immigration:

There's millions of murderous drug cartel pet eating monsters in this country wrecking everything, we need to get them all out of here by any means necessary.

Dems response: We should absolutely get them out of here, but it's worth it to do it slowly and keep due process.

The obvious problem being to the uneducated voter they hear "The parties agree, there are lots of horrible murderers here, do I care more about the rights of the murderers, or getting them out before there are victims".

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

There's a lot of space between hating Israel and being Israel's lapdog. Kamala didn't use any of it.

They aren't changing because they don't need to. The job is already done, their public was successfully manipulated into blaming anyone but the actual people that are in charge of rhe party and the platform itself. Enabling and scapegoating does not lead to change.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That wasn't the only issue...

For example, she became pro border wall and pro fracking.

Other stuff too, in virtually every aspect she intentionally set her policy positions to the right of the Dem voting base to court the mythical "moderate Republicans" who stopped calling themselves Republicans decades ago.

Kamala losing was the result of the "who else will the left vote for, if not me".

And like normally happens, the answer was "no one".

We know how it works out because it keeps being the only choice, and Dems keep losing.

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