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I may not agree with moshing, but crowd surfers can get entirely fucked.
The venue my (now) wife and I went to all the time when we were kids allowed both, and the only injuries us or our friends ever got was from crowd surfers. My wife alone got kicked in the head at at least 4 different shows. It was so bad that at one point I ended up yeeting a surfer like a shotput 3 or 4 people farther forward to protect her from the 3rd hit of that night.
I am apparently the multiverse version of this guy. Can confirm.
Moshing is voluntary and most injuries sustained are from willing participants.
Crowd surfing is dangerous because there’s an entire show there people are watching. They’re not looking for some dickhead’s boot to come whizzing past their ear and into their partners head.
It’s also no fun because there is an insane amount of non consensual contact. On both sides. I don’t want to touch your ass but if you’ve been lobbed in my direction I don’t always get to choose because I need to keep an off balance portion of 135 pounds with momentum in an overhead press or the person beside me will get crushed by a scared flying idiot.
I'm mixed on crowd-surfing TBH, despite getting knocked pretty good a couple of times. It's only been a problem for me if I manage to make it to the first five rows of people on an open floor. I knew that's where the crowd surfers would wind up, and tried to keep my eyes peeled, but expected it was going to happen anyway. I do feel pretty concerned for anyone under 5'6" in a pit though, even if they're confident, seeing as I'm much larger and have still gotten the shit knocked out of me quite a few times.
I also choose this guy's wife's head