American here: I don't want anybody as a president. As it stands though we know what's going to happen if Trump stays in power. Personally I'd prefer a sketchy dice roll with Vance maybe we'll get lucky and it will be slightly less bad, plus there's a destabilizing factor when a cult leader falls maybe we can get lucky with magats getting disorganized

Between Vance and Miller we are throughly fucked if Trump is in office or not. Trump is tightly controlled senile narcissist who is being let off the leash to cause as much chaos as possible because both Miller and Vance are looking for a civil war. Who ever the president is doesn’t really matter in my opinion, Vance and Miller will get the job done no matter what

I mean Vance is capable of being a normal dude as shown with his mostly civil debate with Tim Walz.