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The author wants the capabilities of SpaceX "brought into the sphere of democracy." That sounds less like nationalisation and more like selling it to a functioning government. I wouldn't trust Trump or his cronies to run things any more than I would Elon. Fortunately, Gwynne Shotwell is the functioning adult running the company and (mostly) managing Elon's interference.
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Without "that" - meaning contracts to deliver services. Should they have not taken any government jobs? Does "build a new vehicle to deliver people to ISS" or "deliver satellites to orbit" count as state interference? This paragraph is idiocy. As far as I know, the only government money granted to SpaceX was ~25M from Texas to lure Starbase and Starlink production. Everything else was a contract or other performance-based funding.
SpaceX - with reusability - has undeniably changed the space industry on a global scale, and the decrease in $/kg to orbit is the main factor in our ability to access space and the solar system. The cost hadn't gotten meaningfully under $5,000/kg ever, with the Shuttle at $65k/kg, until Falcon 9 brought it to ~2500 and Heavy down to 1500. Starship (which has been performing successful tests with some explosive secondary goals) should get it to $200/kg. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cost-space-launches-low-earth-orbit
Fuck Trump. Fuck Musk and his drug-fueled slide into shitbaggery. Let SpaceX cook.
https://futurism.com/spacex-failing-starship
Sure, there's plenty of reporting, mostly with agendas. https://www.inc.com/kit-eaton/why-everyones-wrong-about-spacexs-starship-rocket-and-musk-is-probably-right/91195626
Perfect? No. Meeting more primary goals than not? Yes.
Flight 1 – Apr 20, 2023 Primary Goals: ❌ Integrated launch ❌ Stage separation Secondary Goals: ❌ Booster splashdown ❌ Starship reentry
Flight 2 – Nov 18, 2023 Primary Goals: ✅ Hot staging ✅ Near-orbital trajectory Secondary Goals: ❌ Booster recovery ❌ Starship reentry
Flight 3 – Mar 14, 2024 Primary Goals: ✅ Orbital velocity ✅ Propellant transfer demo Secondary Goals: ❌ Payload deployment ❌ Raptor engine relight
Flight 4 – Jun 6, 2024 Primary Goals: ✅ Booster splashdown ✅ Starship reentry Secondary Goals: ✅ Hot-stage ring jettison ✅ Landing flip maneuver
Flight 5 – Oct 13, 2024 Primary Goals: ✅ Booster catch with launch tower ✅ Starship splashdown Secondary Goals: ✅ High-altitude flight ✅ Flap durability test
Flight 6 – Nov 19, 2024 Primary Goals: ✅ Booster recovery ✅ Starship reentry Secondary Goals: ✅ Raptor relight in space ✅ Daylight splashdown
Flight 7 – Jan 16, 2025 Primary Goals: ✅ Booster catch ✅ Starship splashdown Secondary Goals: ❌ Payload deployment ❌ Harmonic resonance test
Flight 8 – Mar 6, 2025 Primary Goals: ❌ Booster recovery ❌ Starship reentry Secondary Goals: ❌ Payload deployment ❌ Thermal protection system test
Flight 9 – May 27, 2025 Primary Goals: ✅ Booster reuse ✅ Starship reentry (reached, failed in execution) Secondary Goals: ❌ Payload deployment ❌ Raptor relight ❌ Heat shield tile test (data collected, vehicle lost)