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I've got no problem with them, but these are obviously kids who grew up in a different age than me, and it shows, I know what could seem a joke to me could come off different to them. Especially this being In the trades and the type of jokes we make here. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable, we're all trying to just get through the day after all

Edit: I have learned, they used to be female, transitioned to male. (So trans-masc? I'm probably messing that up) Lesbian, and non-binary, thankfully they brought it up which was very helpful as I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to ask

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[-] [email protected] 106 points 2 days ago

Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to do something along the lines of stating upfront that "if anyone in the company does anything to offend you, please report it to the appropriate channels. You'll have our full support. We're here to get work done, not to make people feel bad"

You're not likely going to say by accident something they haven't heard before, or to offend them in a new and novel way, But establishing and occasionally reinforcing the fact that they don't have to tolerate it, that putting up with abuse is not part of their job, and that they have the boss's backing at the same level of the non-LGBTQ employees should they find themselves being abused or offended, would probably go a decent way in minimizing the risk of something actually bad happening.

[-] [email protected] 107 points 2 days ago

"... and if I accidentally say or do something offensive, tell me and I'll try to learn better."

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

This whole thread is very good

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

please report it to the appropriate channels

Telling them that you personally will be there for them is really the only guarantee you can make without blindly relying on third parties to act with compassion. So telling them to come to you so that you can then together go through the rest of the process is imo the better idea. They can always choose to just ignore you, but making them go to some shitty HR office by themselves also sucks.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, I’d only encourage reporting if I knew 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person who would be taking the report is also an ally. And even then, I’d still hesitate to encourage it.

My workplace is… Interesting. I work in an arts department for an employer which doesn’t do a lot of art otherwise. Each department is managed by a specific person in HR. My department happens to be managed by a raging transphobe. We also happen to have the highest amount of trans people per capita than any other department… Because, ya know, art.

Our HR person requires that they use their deadname for all of their work stuff. Their work email uses the initials for their deadname. Their Windows username uses their deadname. Their RFID ID badge and name tag both use their deadname. Et cetera… She claims it is company policy to require official government names on everything.

Except it’s not. That policy doesn’t exist. It’s just something she makes up every time a trans person gets hired. There’s even someone in HR who uses a chosen name for all of their work stuff. They literally share an office. Our hiring manager has tried to go through or around this one specific transphobe multiple times, but gets bounced back to her every single time. Because apparently the “your department has a specific HR person” is a rule that is enforced throughout all of HR, but the deadname thing is only enforced by our specific HR person.

The hiring manager does what he can to insulate them from it, but there are certain things he can’t control. For instance, he orders them new custom name tags, so they don’t have to walk around with their deadname stuck to their shirt. But he can’t order new RFID ID badges, because those are printed by our IT department, and they use whatever name is in the system. He can’t change their windows username, or their work email address. To put things into perspective, our department is over 25% trans or nonbinary. That’s over 5x higher than any other department…

And what are those trans employees going to do? Go to HR to report it? As cops are fond of saying: “We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.”

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Re: what are trans employees supposed to do.

At one point the path was documenting disparate behavior and taking up the lawsuit path, but I'm pretty sure my employer could write transgender on the reason for termination line and the eeoc won't touch it under this administration

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

You’re not likely going to say by accident something they haven’t heard before, or to offend them in a new and novel way

Not OP, but you underestimate my foot in mouth capacity.

20 years ago, my sister was dating a jock. Real body builder type. Probably a bigger musclehead than most pro-wrestlers.

What I was trying to convay is that we should make a superhero costume for him to wear, and make a comic book out of it.

What was percieved instead is that he should run around town and suck everybodys nuts in his mouth for their approval.

I DARE you to try to connect how that came out so wrongly worded.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

You can't just leave us hanging like that, how did you word it?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Well maybe only say this if it's true

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