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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[–] [email protected] 244 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Uh, @[email protected] .. what's up with the banning going on in this thread? I noticed on a.lemmy.org that someone was labeled "banned" and their comment was simply "Ight, I’m out"

The mod note was "Let us help you".

There are more similarly weak (spiteful?) bans that certainly don't seem to be at a standard for a ban. "Litterally 1984" was another one. Is that all it takes to be banned here?

Edit: Many (all?) the users I referenced as banned are now unbanned from the site, but now banned from this community.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The "ight I'm out" ban note was.... hm. Not a great look. Comes across as petty and vindictive.

[–] [email protected] 176 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There are worse, imo.

user @snake posted:

Did you ever consider ceding ownership of the instance to an entity with greater legal capabilities?

In the end, it will not make sense to try to keep this instance running if the owners are unable to provide adequate service to its users.

and was banned for:

reason: Go get your service somewhere else

Definitely not a great look.

[–] [email protected] 141 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lemmy.world admins, I am truly asking you to please reflect on how bad this looks. It honestly makes you seem like you can't handle criticism and if people get that vibe they will use it to absolutely fuck with you. I know from my own personal experience. I understand that you're volunteers but this is a step in a very bad direction that will only serve to cause more issues.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree.

This decisions seems emotionally driven. That will not work on the internet.

You created rules. Use your rules to make your decisions. Don't use your emotions.

It won't only bring the site into disarray, it will bring you moderators and your emotional states into disarray.

Make your rules as black and white as poasible. where grayness raises, create new rules.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

Can someone please post this stuff on lemmy world in its own thread? This needs to be brought to attention.

The people responsible for this need to then either concede that they have done wrong, leave or otherwise be made to leave.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FFFUUUUU! I just deleted my reddit account because lemmy doesn't have a power-tripping hostile mod problem so it's better to just permanently move here. I'm so naive...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You have full access to the piracy communities as your instance hasn't blocked them. Here is the link

https://lemmy.today/c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

If that comment is truly the reason the person was banned that’s unacceptable and makes me wonder about the viability of this as a platform. Even if you move instances you need to create a brand new account with username, history etc it’s not the easiest transition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Ehhhh… the other two comment/bans seem a tad vindictive. This on the other had seems to have a different tone to me. It’s thinly veiled criticism and almost feels like a threat, especially if someone has been DDOSing your server for weeks.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope that this demonstrates to people that the oppressive reddit behaviour is not confined to special individuals (such running major social media sites), but is a systematic occurance in online forums. Simply switching from one toxically moderated space to another is not a solution. But this is where the strength of ActivityPub/fediverse lies: we are able to leave for another server while still using the same fundamental service and being able to interact with the same content as before. I would recommend startrek.website as a new or second home for those who wish to migrate.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm probably being overly cynical, but I have a pretty unflattering option of volunteer moderators and the type of people that seek out such seemingly thankless positions-- and their motivations for doing so. I know this might seem-- bizarre-- considering where I am posting this, but I think it nonetheless.

I like lemmy because there's a modlog to see these things. I do not believe that these users would be unbanned if it hadn't been noticed in the modlog. And it appears they're unbanned from the sitewide ban, but still banned in the community. Not sure what sense that makes.

If your instance gets big enough, you'll also have to deal with petty tyrants seeking out positions of petty power.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just wondering and looking at the mod log for one admin and maybe I am crazy but are they unbanning and rebaning users? (Keep in mind it goes new on top):

  • admin Banned @snake from the community Lemmy.world Announcements reason: troll
  • admin Unbanned @snake
  • admin Banned @soviettaters from the community Lemmy.world Announcements reason: Troll
  • admin Unbanned @soviettaters
  • admin Unbanned @ilfi
  • admin Removed Comment Spineless pieces of shit. by @sused reason: toxic
  • admin Banned @sused reason: Bye
  • admin Banned@ilfi reason: Inactive account comes back to troll. Bye
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're unbanning them from a sitewide ban and then immediately banning them from the lemmyworld community.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

What in the hell?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think some of this instance's admins are not onboard with the rest. Too many cooks in the kitchen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well the radio silence on it sure seems like they're circling the wagons to protect an admin that clearly isn't emotionally mature enough to be in such a position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The next Reddit/Lemmy is going to be ran by AI lol, us humans are too easily corrupted by power