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the framing of generative ai as “theft” in popular discourse has really set us back so far like not only should we not consider copyright infringement theft we shouldn’t even consider generative ai copyright infringement

who do you think benefits from redefining “theft” to include “making something indirectly derivative of something created by someone else”? because I can assure you it’s not artists

okay I’m going to mute this post, I’ll just say,

if your gut reaction to this is that you think this is a pro-ai post, that you think “not theft” means “not bad”, I want you to think very carefully about what exactly “theft” is to you and what it is about ai that you consider “stealing”.

do you also consider other derivative works to be “stealing”? (fanfiction, youtube poops, gifsets) if not, why not? what’s the difference? because if the difference is actually just “well it’s fine when a person does it” then you really should try to find a better way to articulate the problems you have with ai than just saying it’s “stealing from artists”.

I dislike ai too, I’m probably on your side. I just want people to stop shooting themselves in the foot by making anti-ai arguments that have broader anti-art implications. I believe in you. you can come up with a better argument than just calling it “theft”.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I will concede that you can be a skilled prompt generator. It is still not the same thing as producing art yourself.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I think it's art-adjacent, what we should find is that actual artists are going to be better at generating good prompts.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't believe that last part is necessarily true. I looked into prompt wizardry a bit and it gets oddly complicated. Like trying to convince a monkey's paw to actually fulfill your real wish with no bullshit.

It didn't seem like the sort of stuff I or better artists I know would pick up naturally.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Convenience is king, if ai isn't convenient to use and learn, people won't do it.

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