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submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

My first months on Lemmy were spent on Lemmy.world, which was the biggest instance at the time. I had no experience with Hexbear because .world had defederated that instance. I sometimes saw it being described as a "tankie" instance, but it was nothing specific.

After I moved to .zip, I came across [email protected], which seemed to be free from anything overtly political and reminded me of r/Gamingcirclejerk, so I subscribed to it and occasionally made comments related to gaming.

Today I made multiple comments to a post about an article on the STALKER game developers having removed the Soviet symbols and the Russian audio in the remastered edition of the game. I would argue that in the thread, there were no comments from me that could be construed by a reasonable person as defensive of Nazism, fascism, or even hinting at it. For example, in one of the comments, I linked a Ukrainian law that prohibits the use of Nazi symbols, though I highly advise looking through all my ten comments as to avoid any misunderstanding or false impressions.

Conversely, one comment posted by another user dismissed Holodomor as Nazi propaganda, which I reported, but a moderator of that community just ended up calling me out for that and taking no action, followed by them banning me.

The thread containing all of my untouched posts is still available via lemmy.zip. My comments are also available for viewing via my user page. They are not available on hexbear due to the ban.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

I don't really know how to do that other than to dig through replies from hexbear users pointing out how much vitriol they use. But in general, there's a lot of name-calling (e.g. since you disagree with me, you must be a "white cracker," "minstrel," etc. -- wtf kind of problem these guys have with minstrels I don't understand); a lot of posting of flippant reaction images instead of actual responses, and so on. They're clearly very angry about politics, which I get, but also have no interest in actually debating politics with any level of subtlety; even when I agree with someone in broad strokes but disagree about a particular item because I think it's counter-productive to their own cause, I just get harshly told off. As a result, I can only assume they imagine everyone else is disingenuous.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Oh I see, didn't realize this is what it was. Honestly that's so much worse than what I was thinking.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Every time I think of how fucked up things are now, I am glad we at least made some progress. Although recently, things seem to progress backwards with all the shit going on.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The term by itself goes back further than that, and doesn’t mean that originally. So it’s very “clever” of them to appropriate the term in this particular context.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Ah yeah, even in that thread, there were people responding with images or immediately labeling me a liberal without explaining or knowing anything about my views except that I seemingly sided with Ukraine. One person was very angry and needlessly escalatory with their "go fuck yourself". Another felt the need to comment on my post history and try to use me running an Epic Games community against me. There's a lot of ad hominem and straw man type arguments, which is usually indicative of not having strong counterarguments on the main subject itself.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I get the same shit on world or other super lib instances claiming I'm a Tankie or fascist apologist or what the fuck ever if I at all question the msm narrative, point out democratic failings, etc.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah that's basically my feelings too. I wonder why they are so defensive. (edit: /gen)

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I don't know if this is sarcasm. If it isn't, it's because they're supposedly leftists, but they have also been told they need to support authoritarian regimes who often harm people they're supposed to want to help, especially Russia invading another much smaller nation (and fighting them poorly). They can't reconcile these two beliefs, so instead they can only attack others.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, they're the worst part of the worst periods of 4chan. I don't think that's where most of them come from, but it's the same type of people.

The fact that they always support authoritarianism is just the cherry on top that makes them totally unreasonable.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Funny, I would've thought "the worst part of the worst periods of 4chan" would be all the bigotry, racism, transphobia, and that sort of thing.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bigotry gets you banned from Hexbear fast.

Unless you wanna play the, "Saying Palestinians should have rights is antisemitic" card or something similar.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

No. I'm talking more about anti-westernism. It's still bigotry. Some bigotry gets you banned quickly, but not all of it.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Unless you wanna play the, “Saying Palestinians should have rights is antisemitic” card or something similar.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I didn't mention Palestine. You're creating a strawman. Anti-zionism is good. Stop the bullshit. You know they're also against anything western, but they'll defend Russia invading a sovereign nation.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess you didn't see the "or something similar."

Yes, they're against western nations, just like they're against the nation of Israel. Thus the comparison. Neither of those things are bigotry.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That is not included in similar by any reasonable measure. There are bad things in every culture. I'm not anti-russian or anti-china, even though I'm anti-authoritarian. All cultures also have plenty to offer. It's bigotry to have hatred towards an entire culture group.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Interesting how your geopolitical positions don't imply bigotry towards the countries you oppose while their geopolitical positions do, somehow 🤔

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

As I said, I'm not anti-any-culture. Authoritarian is not a culture group. I'm anti-authoritarian no matter who or where is doing it.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Cool. I am too, which is why I'm opposed to having a single powerful global hegemon throwing its weight around all across the globe and using economic coercion against developing countries. Apparently that makes me a bigot, somehow 🙄

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

God, you're annoying. Stop strawmaning. That's fine. Being just anti-western isn't. The US isn't the west.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Right, I'm strawmanning. You're totally not.

The US isn't the only country that exploits developing countries, and the rest of western countries help it maintain its hegemony. Still miles away from connecting this to bigotry in any way.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Bigotry: The state of mind of a bigot; obstinate and unreasoning attachment of one's own belief and opinions, with narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs opposed to them.

Ironically, you're being a bigot right now.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lmao. Is this a bit? If I have a narrow-minded perspective on what constitutes a sandwich, does that make me a bigot?

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