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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The thing that I will never not think about is how, given the distance and human reaction time and other factors, it's very likely that the shooter had Donald dead to rights when he pulled the trigger. Then, God's favorite idiot jerked his head to the side like he always does when he speaks, probably around the exact same moment the shooter pulled the trigger, and instead of blowing the back of his head clean off, it grazed his ear. I'm not sure anyone can convince me that the shooter didn't fuck up; Donald just got incredibly, unbelievably lucky.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (20 children)

He was not struck with a bullet. It was shrapnel from one of the nearby screens. There's a reason they didn't release the first medical report and took a week to get their favorite lying doctor (who is not a practice doctor any longer because he's in Congress) to release his own lie filled report.

A bullet would have torn off a hunk of his ear. We've seen the lack of wound within days of the event.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is the first time I heard of this and made me really curious. I tried my best to find any proof, confirmations or fact checking sites backing up this claim, but nada. Either the dude has succesfully paid literally everyone to lie, or, sometimes the truth sounds worse than a lie and our cognitive function really wants approvals for that.

If you have something solid, please send it to me, wish I could use this argument, but at this point I'd feel like yellow press

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After much debate, the FBI report settled on bullet or bullet shrapnel but there was no conclusive evidence as Cheeto bandito refused to be checked out or let doctors talk about it.

The idea above was an initial theory by Internet no lifers. The more common one now is that he hit his head on a secret service pistol when ducking.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump’s ear getting scratched after getting tackled by the Secret Service was my first thought when I saw the photo.

I don’t think a bullet got close.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I did see a video that postulated he was hit in the head by one of the USSS agents' holsters

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The proof is in that hidden first doctor report that they refused to publish before getting the guy who tried to tell us he was a trim 230 and 6'3" to make the statement.

And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it. Given that this is medical in nature, the number of people who even had access to that is small, and right wing media will repeat whatever lie he tells, it suits their narrative best. Regardless of how obviously untrue it is

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it.

I hate how easily I can imagine religious folks seeing this as a positive sign, instead of as a suspicious one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This, I can believe. Now, it's not necessarily true it would've mangled his ear if it was a grazing shot, but a graze likely wouldn't have bled quite as much as Donald's wound did. A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.

This or getting cut when tackled/ducking really make the most sense and match the injury characteristics the most.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

and this is why we aim for centre mass

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep. Even if Donald has been wearing body armor, I'm not sure his 78 year old probably on blood thinners ass would've been able to take it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Even a cheap .223 can penetrate most body armor. Even at 150 yards.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's usually the most vile beings that get to live their life to the fullest...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

I don't think that's necessarily true. I've had the great joy to know a few exceptionally content people through the years, and while they might not be yucking it up on a yacht somewhere, I also get the distinct impression that they're all around happier and more at peace than the likes of Musk and Trump are. Folks have raised the hypothesis that the ultra-wealthy are just hoarders but wealth instead of trash, hoping that maybe just this next billion will finally bring them contentment, and it never does. I've come to suspect that that hypothesis holds at least some water.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't want to start

Any blasphemous rumours

But I think that God

Got a sick sense of humour

And when I die

I expect to find him laughing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

ishenrykissingerdead.com

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

According to Trump himself, he looked down to check his notes right when the shot was fired. It's a rare incident where I believe him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Iirc, back when it happened, there were people from his highschool target shooting team that said he didn't make the team because he wasn't a good shot.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I rewatched the broadcast to confirm, Trump absolutely inadvertently stepped out of the shot right as the shooter pulled the trigger. Trump went from standing with a hand on the podium, to leaning forward on it as he turned his head to his right.

The shooter brought a laser rangefinder which suggests he was aware of at least basic marksmanship fundamentals like bullet drop from gravity. He also had an AR-15, with a red dot and was laying prone with no visual barriers between him and the dais where Trump was about 130 yards away. Even a budget AR shooting basic af ammo can expect to shoot a 4 inch circle at that distance- plenty enough for a headshot.

Trump survived through dumb luck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Just did some quick napkin math. At the low end, the .223 has a muzzle velocity of about 900 yards per second, which, at that distance, means that the bullet made it to Donald in roughly 0.14s. at the high end, muzzle velocity is about 1233 yards per second, meaning it cleared the gap in very nearly .1s even. I did a bit of googling, and it looks like human reaction time at the low end is about 200 ms, BUT can be much lower or even a hair premature if the reaction is the result of a trained, anticipatory response. As such, it seems likely that Crooks' reaction time, rather than 0.2s, was much closer to some negligible value, even when considered from the frame of a bullet's travel.

That means that wherever Donald's head was 0.1-0.15s before the infamous bullet photo was taken is probably very close to what Crooks saw when he pulled the trigger.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used to participate in International Defensive Pistol Association competitions. I was, honestly, terrible. I'd routinely mangle or just do an overall uninspiring job of the up close shots, and I was hardly as smooth and quick as anyone else there. I just didn't have the money to burn through ammo and time at the range like other folks did. One time, we were doing a series of targets at thirty feet and the spirit came over me and I double tapped two of them right in the jugular notch as smooth as you like. Won't claim it as an achievement because I can't even remotely come close to reproducing it, I'm still not that good of a shot, and I wouldn't have believed I was going to do it if you'd told me ahead of time. I can't explain why or how I did it, just, idk, rolled a twenty that time I guess.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I once fired a 22 round through the middle of a polo mint without breaking it from 25m away. I framed that shit because likewise, knew that wasn't happening again. That's part of the fun of the sport as a an amateur, occasionally chance does funny things.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

While and head shot is more fatal. He would have been able to land multiple chest shots at that distance. A bullet to the heart would end him, and multiple shots would be difficult to survive.

People forget what a big person Trump is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Why do you think police are trained to aim center mass

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I honestly don't think the gun was ever aimed at Trump. His "wound" was gone basically overnight.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (8 children)

People behind him were killed. The guy just missed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Meh. Occam's razor applies here, I think. The head is highly vascular, and even small injuries can produce a visually stunning amount of blood. I don't think it was a fake or a conspiracy; sometimes shit just happens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Geriatrics take forever to heal, though, especially when their lifestyle is as atrocious as Trump's.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The cartilage of the ear takes a long time to heal, yet HitlerPig was walking around fully healed within 2 weeks. He also showed no sign of being injured at all, when a glancing shot like that should have mangled his ear at least a little bit. Yet, it looks perfectly fine now, not even the slightest nick or scar.

Occam's Razor means something slightly different when it comes to HitlerPig. In his case, the most nefarious, dishonest, corrupt story is probably the right one. He was never shot, the whole thing was a hoax.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends, because I don't think his cartilage was actually damaged. A glancing shot wouldn't have necessarily done any structural damage at all if the angle was shallow enough. I don't think Donald is competent enough to keep a houseplant alive, I have grave doubts that his team would have been able to effectively stage an assassination attempt without bungling it and actually getting Donald killed or something else real bad. I mean, if you need to believe it was a hoax, don't let me get in the way of a good time, I guess, but sometimes shit really does just happen. Source: 15 years on the ambulance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The rounds used were high-velocity rifle, not handgun rounds. Were it a handgun round, it could be believable. The greater amount of kinetic velocity leads to much more devastating wounds, even with grazes. He may have been grazed by debris or indirectly by a fragment from a bullet that hit something else, but, that's not the claim.

Source: I've spent a significant amount of my life learning about firearms and I've been next to someone who was hit by a .45 ACP that ricocheted at a shooting range after hitting a rock about 15-20m away. He was hit solidly in the meaty bit of the shoulder at an almost straight-on, vertical angle. Not a graze. The round did not penetrate, fortunately. The wound had minor, superficial lacerations or tears radiating about 1.5x the round diameter and a bruise the size of an orange. Bleeding was easily stopped with a single gauze pad.

Why does that matter? Well, the wound experienced was similar, if not more significant and visible, considering it's a less vascular and bleed-y than an ear. A common .45 ACP FMJ round has about 1/4 the energy of a 5.56x45mm NATO round when it leaves the barrel. The reduction of velocity from the ricochet was extreme, likely below 200ft/s (60m/s), roughly 1/4 of initial velocity, but it still had enough energy to create a similar degree of wounding.

Kinetic energy (KE) is proportional to mass times the square of velocity, meaning that every time velocity doubles, KE quadruples. So, a .45 ACP round traveling at ~1/4 of its velocity posesses ~1/16 of its initial KE (supposing it didn't lose any mass, which it did). That makes it around 1/64th of the KE of the 5.56mm round. The likelihood of a 5.56mm round making little enough contact to transfer less than 1/64th of its energy into a ear, without the pressure wave impacting the surrounding tissue at all is not technically impossible but it is about on the scale of the chances of Ghandi not pulling out nukes in the original Civ.

Add to that the suppression of any medical evidence and it's a pretty clear picture.

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