15
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 15 May 2025
15 points (80.0% liked)
European Systems Collective
116 readers
1 users here now
We support businesses and organizations migrating away from US-based big tech to self-hosted free software and European alternatives.
We will focus on stories that illustrate the reasons to migrate, offer practical advice on how to migrate, and highlight stories of organizations that have successfully migrated.
Brought to you by the kind people from The Nursery.
founded 4 months ago
MODERATORS
Just to make sure, you do realize that Russians invaded Ukraine and Ukrainians are fighting a defensive war, right?
I'm aware of that framing.
Another narrative is that Russia finally came to the defense of the DPR and LPR breakaway states, which sought to escape their ethnic cleansing^[https://tankie.tube/w/11tj9DFjVqbdfBMzqVSUU1] at the hands of Kiev's Maidan regime, after Putin mistakenly^[https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2023/02/10/ukraine-zelensky-minsk-peace-russia/] ^[https://original.antiwar.com/ted_snider/2023/08/29/was-putin-really-serious-about-the-minsk-accords/] trusted the West to act in good faith towards seeking a peaceful resolution.
One could frame that war as having ended in 2023, when Russian troops took control of the Donbass. Since then, the troops have remained simply to defend the now-annexed territory from the invading Ukrainian forces, which are increasingly composed of untrained and unfit conscripts forced at gunpoint by fascist militias^[https://azovlobby.substack.com/p/how-we-learned-to-stop-worrying-and] into NATO's proxy war.
Such is the power of narrative control.
euromaidan was a coup.
freikorps in ukraine were attacking the ethnic russians in the east for years before when your goldfish memory thinks the conflict started.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1S110Y/
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/criticism-of-ukraines-language-law-justified-rights-body-idUSKBN1E227I/
https://apnews.com/article/e971db860c7a4c12a5240fc08ce6c95e
I would recommend searching "site:reuters.com Ukraine nationalists" and set date before 2020, even western press were reporting very differently before then. It was only after Biden took office that the narrative shifted completely.