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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Can you not read your own chart? That has her still losing 251-270. She still loses PA and is still obliterated in NC.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People love to cope that way. Harris was unpopular not just because she oversaw a genocide as vice-president and advocated for its continuation, but also because she chased after the mythical moderate republican voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

People need to stop arguing against material reality for the sake of political expediency. I know it would be nice if Palestine really was the reason she Kamala lost. But it wasn't and you can't removedthe democrats into believing it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm libposting when I say this, but having 100,000 less people openly hating you probably brings you more than 100,000 votes - imagine how many people would've campaigned for Kamala if she set Gaza as a red line and kept everything else the same!

Not that I disagree because that's too nuanced for this kind of chart

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

This is one of those fuzzy "the hypotheticals always go my way" type things.

It's how Democrats are always "Akshually just because Gallup says that 2/3rds of the country wants something doesn't mean they'll go out and vote for it if we pitch a 25 year on ramp for federal marijuana legalization."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And imagine how many Zionists would have campaigned against her lol

It's nice to think our politics are popular, but it's not the case in a rhetoric sense

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, North Carolina probably shouldn't be included because it really wasn't decisive at all, but it's still amazing to see just how much libs fucking hated her.

Especially funny to see now that Biden is back and doing his senile "I still think I would've won" tour. Would be hilarious if he starts throwing Harris under the bus with these numbers. While I was at the gym I saw some clips of Fox News ragging on him for going on the View to brag about how he would've won, typically hate that they have that and CNN on 24/7 but it did make me laugh this time. Biden is such a piece of shit.

Anyone else think he'll just pass away on live TV?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i hope he goes like that Ukrainian nazi

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hunka? He died? I didn't know that, you're telling me now for the first time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

[CW: Link leads to a video of what the link says it is.]

They are referring to Pyotr Vushko, former head of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army during World War 2, who died mid-speech in 2017.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

That's a good one, haven't seen that one before. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

PA would be a lot closer and maybe those people would be more activated to get others to vote. Enthusiasm has a spreading effect like that sometimes. But even with that cope, NC still looks like a lost cause. And of course there's no way to know if PA would translate that way, I still suspect it would be a loss for her.