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[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nope. I am serious. We have to literally do one thing as citizens and that is vote. If one isn't willing to do that one doesn't get the benefits of a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You aren't serious. How tf are you going to "expatriate" someone? Put them in a rowboat and tow them into international waters?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Trumps doing it, you make a monetary deal with a prison elsewhere and fly people there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You act like I have the power to do anything at all. Chill out. I don't care how it would be done I think that's how it should be because it is that easy and important to vote.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you can send them to El Salvador.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I was thinking something cheaper and easier like a good old fashioned ice float but its called a brainstorm for a reason.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I could see this if every opportunity was made to allow it.

Loosing citizenship due to a debilitating illness is completely unacceptable for example.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is weird how humans immediately try to find exceptions to a rule without ever discussing its full implementation in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's full implementation is unacceptable as a hard rule. I agree with doing a lot to ensure everyone votes, but removing rights for reasons beyond one's control is the opposite of helpful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No one said rights would be removed for reasons beyond control. Quit being ridiculous, shit isn't real.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Expatriation means losing basically every right in the charter, and is politically equivalent to execution. This reason (failing to vote) is also heavily biased towards people with less control over their lives, and disrupting someone from voting could be used as a weapon.

I can see punishments for failing to vote, but such an extreme response should be reserved for those who explicitly choose not to vote, and such a system would need a rigorous judgment to act on.

Having such a thin line between citizenship and expatriation is too dangerous. On one hand, choosing not to vote may be considered a serious enough act, but on the other hand there are dozens of reasons a vote can fail to be cast, and they would all need to be addressed before something as serious as expatriation is considered as a punishment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I know what expatriation means, hence why it is a part of my idea. Frankly, if one doesn't have a really good reason not to vote I don't care how extreme the punishment is.

As I said in another comment cheap and easy like a good old fashioned ice float for being too lazy to do the one thing required of you in a democracy. If you believe that means people physically, or mentally, incapable of being able to do that would be expatriated you need to touch grass because we have numerous laws with exceptions. Welcome to Canada.