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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Eating out" a lot would make sense from a sustainability perspective due to the scale wouldn't it? I know in the US it's pretty expensive generally, but if there were some sort of cafeteria style thing it should be less than making your own food in terms of cost, labor and resources right?

I guess I'm kinda thinking about the street food scenes that a lot of countries have (which have a few other issues), and have some sort of middle-ground betwen them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah division of labor and economy of scale could actually be leaned into a lot harder in an economy without profit and exploitation, all while avoiding many of the negative experiences and connotations we have under capitalism.

Like there's nothing inherently demeaning or problematic about cleaning houses or serving food, it's just that our current system relies on the existence of an underclass of people effectively forced into the jobs and paid less than the cost of their social reproduction. And the otherization that takes place to create and reinforce that class, as well as a result of its existence, is dehumanizing.

But I really wouldn't mind working at like a pizzeria or cleaning service if the jobs didn't entail poverty and dehumanization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it helps if you feel like you aren't alienated from your labor as well. "Making pizzas so the boss makes a dime and cuts me a paycheck" is a lot different than "I make pizzas cause they are tasty and people like eating them"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

yeah exactly, making and serving food that people like is a blast, working in a chill environment with friends is a blast

just sucks working for a small business tyrant with a massive truck and vacation home, while you can't afford rent or healthcare and have odd hours that oscillate unpredictably between too few and too many