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“I, a proud member of the U.S. military, won’t obey illegal orders to attack our allies.” (integ.substack.com)

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Let me be absolutely clear: Any military assault on these sovereign territories would not only betray the trust of long-time allies and shatter the credibility of the United States as a global leader but also constitute a grave violation of international law and the U.S. Constitution.

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For failing to uphold their oath and involvement in war crimes, members of the military can be individually prosecuted and severely punished by law, even when the instructions came from the president.

They absolutely WILL be prosecuted for disobeying an order. Pretty much nobody got in trouble for the 1994 "Highway of Death" and Battle in Ramaila (after the ceasefire was declared) incidents in Iraq. I'm pretty sure one pilot that refused to fire on retreating Iraqi troops was courtmarshalled and might still be in jail but for the life of me I can't find anything online about this.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

IIRC the guys who stopped the My Lai Massacre were given longer sentences than the troops who committed the massacre and war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yandex is good for finding stuff like that, that's censored on google, but regardless I can't find anything on that(without more specifics at least 'American court martialled for refusing order to fire gulf war' is what I tried), I did find some funny incidents among the horror though:

For example, a Navy sailor was court-martialled for jumping off the carrier Independence while the giant ship was steaming in the Northern Arabian Sea on Aug. 9, 1990.

In addition to being charged with “wrongfully and intentionally” jumping off the ship, the sailor was also charged with resisting a “search-and-rescue swimmer” who was ordered to pluck him out of the water. He also was charged with failure to report to his duty station on the ship.

The unidentified sailor was tried by a special court-martial, but the charge that he resisted rescue was dismissed. On Aug. 28, 1990, after a trial that lasted less than three hours, he was convicted on the remaining charges, and a military judge sentenced him to the brig for two months, reduced his rank, fined him $800 and issued a bad-conduct discharge.

sailor from the Independence was convicted of having 600 doses of the hallucinogenic drug LSD aboard the ship Nov. 27, 1990. His two-day court-martial began Dec. 3, and he was convicted on five drug charges.

These are for refusing to fight but their from the second gulf war https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/soldier-courtmartialed-for-refusing-to-fight-in-oildriven-war-61225.html

https://www.jurist.org/commentary/2006/11/court-martialed-for-refusing-to-take/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yandex... gonna have to remember that one for the future.

Thanks, comrade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

be warned it russian so it boosts their outlets(but still censors far less stuff than google et al, good for piracy stuff also), using it in combination with a western engine is a good way go get as close to an objective view as possible on things