On the plus side, I smell a great opportunity for a longitudinal population study. 🤔

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[–] 55 points 1 year ago (23 children)

There are two ways to prevent tooth decay. First is the easy way which is to put fluoride in the drinking water. It's easy and protects everyone, but particularly the poorer segments of the population that might struggle with things like preventative dentist appointments.

The second way is the hard way which is to modify your diet to avoid foods high in sugars and carbs and to prefer more proteins and fiber. This is the approach some European countries take.

If you do neither you will get significantly increased rates of tooth decay.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I eat very healthily! I just love plain grapefruit to a ridiculous degree!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Plain fruit is literally fructose sugar, citric and ascorbic acid and some fiber plus a little Roundup mixed with the wax coating.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    The acid is terrible for your teeth. That's why I mentioned grapefruit in particular. My dentist and I have had conversations :-(

    Edit: also, I do peel the grapefruit. I eat them much like oranges.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    You don’t eat the coating of a grapefruit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But that's the most appealing part.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Actually lots of areas in Europe tested fluoride in water locally at some point. But they never found convincing evidence of this being preferably to getting fluoride the "classic way" (personalized in small doses already included in toothpaste).

    Are USians not brushing their teeth? Or have they changed the toothpaste formulas to exclude fluoride, too, now?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Fluoride in toothpaste does help as well but it only does so much, and yes some toothpaste brands also don't include fluoride. To get the most out of fluoridated toothpaste you need to pair it with a better diet. Most Americans eat a diet that's incredibly heavy in sugars and carbs as compared to Europe. That's part of the reason why many European countries found little benefit to adding fluoride to their drinking water, their rates of tooth decay were already significantly less than in the US due mostly to dietary differences.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It is possible to get fluoride-free toothpaste but it’s a bit of a niche/specialty item.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I have a feeling it’ll come roaring back under RFK jr.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Seems like it would be the opposite. It’s not like the government is buying the toothpaste, and sane people are going to be needing proper toothpaste to compensate for the lack of fluoride in their water.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Key word there is sane.As we saw with the last election there is a sizable chunk of the US population that that label doesn't apply to.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah but those people have been buying fluoride-free the whole time.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Well no, many of them will have only decided they have a problem with fluoride now that Dear Leaders proxy in the FDA has decided it's a problem. And if you think for one minute the pharmaceutical companies won't all rush out new fluoride free versions of their existing toothpaste brands to try to get a chunk of those morons money you haven't been paying attention to corporate America for the last century.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Most European countries do not fluoridate their water. Our solution is brushing our teeth and public healtcare that also includes dental care (albeit it can still be fairly expensive and many prefer private due to long queues in public (Private is like 100-250 per visit in Finland and generally its recommended to do 1-2 visits a year but many visit much less frequently)

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