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Since this wasn't apparent the last time I asked... no, I'm actually not a US citizen or green card holder (permanent resident). Just happened to be in this country for a long time due to career reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Visit some of the National Parks, aka America's best idea.

Some amazing ones (they're all amazing, tbh) in no particular order:

  • Yosemite
  • Arches / Canyonlands (close to each other)
  • Yellowstone
  • Grand Tetons
  • Glacier
  • Denali
  • Olympic
[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Grand canyon isn't even on here, I'm disappointed

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Bryce canyon is superior for a day trip. Grand Canyon isn't really that beautiful unless you can hike or ride down into it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're in Utah then I suggest Lower Antelope Canyon as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not in Utah, but close enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Mbad ur right. It's near paige arizona. My last trip there I kinda went back and forth between arizona and utah so things got blurred

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Plenty of countries have national parks btw. Many of them had them before America. While the American ones are indeed geographically amazing, I am tired of thinUS exceptionalism that the US is the only country that has national parks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Perhaps I'm illiterate, but I saw nothing in their comment suggesting that the US is the only country with National Parks.

I don't think they even implied that they're better than any other National Parks.

They said it was our best idea... I don't think that implies we were first, just that it was a good idea for us to do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I don't think the person above meant anything by it, but if we're just discussing grammar: if I say something is "my idea" that does suggest that I thought of it. It is reasonable to read the sentence that way, and Americans do have a tendency to reflexively think we are exceptional.

Both readings are perfectly cromulent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I acknowledge your point. Maybe I came across too harshly due to some baggage about it. Especially an episode from the podcast 99% invisible about the US national parks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

While many (if not most) countries have national parks, the policies surrounding them are different. A simple thing like camping is often restricted in European parks, mixed land use is allowed so you are more removed from pure non human nature. As a result, the experience of visiting one may be vastly different - depending on what you are doing. American national parks are exceptional not because they are the only country that has them - which isnt true as you pointed out, they are exceptional because of the governing policies surrounding them.

I'd surely visit one, before I left, because the experience isnt going to be the same in any other.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'd surely visit one, before I left, because the experience isnt going to be the same in any other.

You might want to visit them soon anyway, as I believe they will be significantly reduced over the next 4 years as our Kakistocratic government continues to dismantle everything good about this country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not from the US but maybe, some day when I'm old and grey, I'll visit one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

As I said, you might want to hurry up. They're already talking about selling that land.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I think that’s a fair point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Plenty of countries have national parks btw. Many of them had them before America.

Well not really though ? Yellowstone established in 1872 is generally considered the first national park, in the modern sense of the term*, and inspired others to follow in the next couple of decades in Canada, New Zealand and Australia. It wasn't until the 1900s that the first national park was established in Europe.

* there are a couple of other places that also claim this distinction, depending on how exactly you define what a national park is, but not many

Calling national parks "America's best idea" is a quote from historian and environmentalist Wallace Stegner - I think the point of it is not to toot some US exceptionalism horn - in context it's more of an acknowledgment that America deserves a lot of criticism - saying that national parks are America's best idea is actually putting a bit of shade on other American exceptionalism claims, especially during the Reagan "shining city upon a hill" era.