The Lemmy Club is currently suffering from "The Nazi Bar" problem. All of their top communities are run by three right-wingers as illustrated below.
The Lemmy Club instance admin doesn't seem to want to ban them, for the reasons mentioned below:
This vote is on whether or not we should defederate from this instance until they address their Nazi Bar problem.
Upvote = for defederation. Downvote = against defederation.
Edit: As others have mentioned, happy to treat this a only a temporary measure until the problem is resolved.
Edit 2: The Lemmy Club admin has said they will implement a rule against right wing communities, and has taken action on some problematic posts and users (see original comments below).
I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to the admin here, as they have responded in good faith:
If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.
I think my problem is more with the admin. We shouldn't need to moderate his own communities for him, and if this stuff is allowed by him, it'll create a culture for this stuff on his instance.
can't fix people. I was recently doing work marketing tooling via ML, and had to point out to people that we may get companies that are fascists and what we wanted to do when it occurs.
My personal stance was to charge them significantly more in order to drain coffers. harder to do with communication systems besides blocking them. but part of my argument was those companies would provide good training data for building tools that identify their content for automatic removal/prevention.
So if this admin allows it on his instance, let him. thats his problem. imo best they self congregate so we can track/manage them via tooling than constantly having to find were they went to next.
eventually I'll get around to building tooling and having a instance with a history of data and an activate fascist user base will be a useful dataset.
Fair point. Let's see how the vote goes :^)
agreed, im not too worried either way. defederating is easy can do it whenever. =)
The user in question has never faced moderation action from db0.
They are posting content on your instance, not ours. We have banned them but what is more concerning is how you have not banned/removed this. You are allowing conservatives and actual nazis to foster a hate group on your instance.
Checking [email protected] i saw "bernard" literally post a link to europe: the last battle, a neo nazi documentary. And another video claiming "jews control the narrative". You are letting spaces like these foster on your instance, dude.
Check out bernard's mastodon https://friends.ravergram.club/explore
Why have you not taken action against this? Is it really that worth it? Just ban them, come on.
This sounds harsh but i do not mean to be so, and i apologize in advance.
I had not taken action against these posts because they had not been reported and had not garnered enough interest or interaction to have been seen by me organically until now. That is not one of my users but they have been banned.
After further consideration I've removed any explicitly conservative comms from my instance as I don't feel I can effectively moderate them or leave them be.
Thank you. We can overturn the vote, depending on what the other mods think. I hope it does, and i appreciate you listening.