They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] 96 points 2 years ago (64 children)

Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow

Think I found the problem— why not do the obvious thing and empty them more often?

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (31 children)

    Genuine answer here, as someone who volunteers for the parks. A lot of times the budgets are tight, depending on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area and what services are there/nearby, the staffing just isn't available. Yeah it's a pretty easy thing to do in theory, but in practice when it becomes "okay and 2 hours of your shift is driving out there and emptying the cans" it's not a far leap to just "Remove the cans, make the snack stand dispose of their garbage on their own"

    I mean I get it, the cans are nice but also, like you're an adult. Throw your trash away on your own.

    "But then people will throw it on the ground!" Okay then pay someone to stand out there and slap every idiot that thinks littering is okay because they couldn't find a can in 10 seconds.

    It's common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can. It's not hard.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (29 children)

    It’s common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can.

    But you've removed all the cans rather than fix your budgeting problems.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    That's literally the patio of a commercial place that sells food enclosed in trash.

    If they rely on volunteers to clean the trash, a lot of people are doing lots of things very wrong.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (19 children)

    Who’s gonna do it and pay for it?

    If people weren’t such babies and cleaned up after themselves, we wouldn’t need to waste taxpayers money on cleaning up after adults who could do it themselves.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The problem isn't that a park removed their trash cans. The problem is that a cafe removed their trash cans.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    So they can't afford to keep the land they have in trust so it is all the landless peasantry that should labor for the land holders because kindness ?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Because that would mean employing someone to empty them regularly, and as most woodland is few and far between in this country most woodland owners deem that an unnecessary expense.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    There’s a cafe and forestry workers, is it that time consuming?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    And how do they get the garbage to the dump? You would need vehicles, insurance, garage, maintenance departments… it all snowballs.

    Just be responsible for your own garbage, not a hard concept.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    In this instance, yes, but which is why I said the cafe worker should have an internal bin for customer usage. In most other cases there is no one on site for weeks at a time.

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