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Why are all these big deportation stories about hezbolah people and gang members that we are supposed to be sympathizing with and vocally defending?
The AntiDeportation stories I would like to support are like 'nice mom that is just nice and not part of any gang nor anything illegal deported horribly from her 5 nice kids'. Give us those stories please. I am totally happy not having gang member neighbors. Why would I want that or sympathize with them?
the mom that worked in the big illegal weed op is the closest so far. I am totally for weed and in a place it's legal, but I understand that, if she makes money on the smuggling of weed from legal to illegal places, it will be bad for her when she's caught. That was not controversial to me. It shouldnt be that way, but it wasnt unusually controversial.
are there no actual innocent nice people being immorally deported? That seems crazy to me, but where are the stories?
What you are missing about why we are actually enraged is the complete lack of evidence of their crimes or any kind of due process. Everybody deserves to be heard by the court.
Even if you don't care about immigrants, you should realize that if they can be targeted and punished without evidence, then you can be too.
that's a great point, thank you!
even without it being a risk to self that sounds immoral.
Glad you can see it that way. Even your average liberal agrees that deporting violent criminals is a good idea -- what we oppose is the idea that the government can accuse anyone of being a violent criminal without evidence, punish them without scrutiny, and even make them disappear.
makes sense. So it is partly BECAUSE the people are accused of gang and hezbolah affiliation that it is extra controversial instead of being less controversial; with the reason being lack of evidence and fair trial, and that that shouldnt even start to be ok
personally im surprised the trump administration is even giving reasons for deporting people
It's part of the strategy -- publicly condemn people as being the type of person that is easy to hate so that there is support for the punishment.
If he started disappearing people without giving any reason, his supporters would be more likely to take note of that and question him. "Violent criminals and terrorists" on the other hand, that the people can get behind, apparently without question.