this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2023
33 points (100.0% liked)
askchapo
22732 readers
275 users here now
Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.
Rules:
-
Posts must ask a question.
-
If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.
-
Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.
-
Try [email protected] if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
If Democrats can run on "not Republican" and simply be entitled to enough votes by that mere fact, they have no reason to ever make concessions to the left. This is affirmed by the continuous movement to the right on the part of Dems except in the language they use in their empty gestures. If a leftist spoiler fucks things up for them one election, they have reason to make concessions to take back that spoiler's base.
If you're in a fight, it's often good to use your hands to block, but if focusing only on that prevents you from striking back, all you are succeeding in is losing more slowly than otherwise.
Tbf they're not going to make concessions regardless because the Dems looove losing and hate doing anything remotely left-wing
Then keep building up the spoiler until it supplants them.
If the left is ever to be a genuine alternative to the Democratic party it's not going to be because you didn't voot Democrat in national elections but because of real organising (with a little help from shifting material conditions of course)
I agree but we need to block until we can strategize, build class consciousness, and actually organize to do something.
it's easier to organize when the Rs are in charge, from personal experience.
That's terrifying. It will allow so many people to be hurt even faster in the meantime.
even faster? the dems just continue the same policies. you just stop hearing about it. among latine communities, Obama was known as the deporter in chief, and he spearheaded the detention cells housing children. if anything, Trump was /less/ effective because it became a political issue libs were willing to discuss/fight back against.